I’m opening up this thread in honor of my upcoming ‘truthversary.’ I thought it would be fun for people to share their story of how they broke from mainstream narratives and fell down the truther rabbit hole. And also, when and how did you discover Miles Mathis’ work? I’ll kick things off by sharing my story:
I generally date my conversion to being a “conspiracy theorist” when I was procrastinating in early January 2016 and clicked on a recommended video on YouTube. It was “9/11: The New Pearl Harbor.” The documentary is about 5 hours long, and I had no intention of watching the whole thing that day. But after the first 30 minutes I was hooked and couldn’t stop.
But that wasn’t my first trip down the rabbit hole.
In high school, probably 11th grade, I wrote a term paper in US History about how FDR knew the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor but turned a blind eye because he felt it was the only way to get the country into war to fight the Axis threat. I read at least a couple of legitimate history books that go into the details of that. Little did I know then about limited hangouts and misdirection. Because of course FDR was never against the Germans or the Japanese. He was always for the bankers who were working both sides of the conflict to become even more obscenely wealthy. And the fauxtos from the aftermath of the Pearl Harbor bombing also lead me to suspect that it didn’t happen as we are told. But I approached the topic in that paper almost as a curiosity – I’m not even sure I believed the argument. I wrote it because I found it interesting and stimulating.
Later in college in the mid-90’s I had a buddy who turned me on to UFO’s and aliens, and he nearly convinced me that there were many legitimate sightings of UFO’s and that the Earth was being visited and studied by one or more alien species. After all, the high ranking military officers who testified about their sightings were trustworthy, right? Why would they risk their careers and reputations to come forward? In fact, why would anyone lie about their encounters with aliens if it meant they were going to be ridiculed? Sure they could give talks on the UFO conference circuit, but nobody was getting rich off their tales of abduction, etc.
It was only in the last few years that I would come to understand that all of these people would lie if they were being ordered and/or paid to do so, and that the “UFOs are piloted by aliens” is really just a psyop designed to hide the true origin of UFOs (Earth) and their actual pilots (phoeny humans). Most recent example: former head of Israeli Defense Ministry’s Space Division and 3-time winner of the Israel Security Award recently came forward to announce that the US and Israel have both been dealing with aliens for years. Trump was on the verge of disclosing their existence, but the “Galactic Federation reportedly stopped him from doing so, saying they wished to prevent mass hysteria since they felt humanity needed to evolve and reach a stage where we will… understand what space and spaceships are.” Which makes no sense and just reads like another test of people’s gullibility.
But after nearly accepting the reality of UFO’s, I lost interest in the subject and moved on with my life. Then in the early 2000’s, I don’t remember how, but I came across a blog called Rigorous Intuition. The writer of this blog focused on two things: one was stories of satanic ritual abuse of children among the military and the elite. The other was the alleged hijackers of the 9/11 attack, talking about their womanizing and alcohol drinking in Florida prior to the attack and largely based on the work of Michael Ruppert. (At the time of course I thought Ruppert was a brave truth-teller, but now one glance at his long Wikipedia reveals who he really was: dad was a former military officer who later worked as a liaison between the CIA, the Air Force and a major defense contractor; mom was at the NSA; Ruppert himself turned down a job offer from the CIA [sure he did!] to work at the LAPD where he quickly stumbled upon and blew the whistle on a CIA drugs smuggling operation, surprise surprise.)
At the time, the material broached by that blog left me totally shaken. It wasn’t so much the 9/11 material (which hinted at something nefarious about the hijackers but never just came right out and showed it was a false flag), but rather the satanic stuff. The idea that there was a powerful and broad network of people engaged in satanic ritual abuse of children with the aim of creating mind-controlled slaves that they could then deploy for blackmail and other purposes was grotesque and deeply troubling. I simply accepted that it was most likely true, sort of packed it away in my subconscious, and moved on with my life. I no longer believe that it’s true. I think it is another elaborate web of lies designed to distract us from the truth. (And not coincidentally, raising the possibility that events are hoaxed is considered breaking the rules of the Rigorous Intuition forum.)
So although I always had an open mind for alternative ideas and conspiracy theories, they never quite stuck with me or fundamentally changed my overall worldview that dramatically. I think it was because I was never quite fully convinced that what I had learned was true. There was enough of a shadow of a doubt that I was pulled back from the edge of the rabbit hole.
Fast forward to late 2012. Something reminded me of my interest in UFOs, and I did a websearch. I came across the Reddit r/UFOs subreddit and began a long, deep dive into that topic, but now I had the internet at my fingertips. I got really into it and reached the same conclusion again, only this time I was sure it was true that UFOs existed, were piloted by aliens and the governments of the world knew that and were covering it up. The exact outlines of what the governments knew, what their involvement was with the aliens and what the aliens’ intentions were was hard to discern for sure, but overall the picture was clear. That rabbit hole also led me into ‘free energy,’ cold fusion and LENR, etc.
Then in early January 2016 I watched 9/11: The New Pearl Harbor, which was probably recommended alongside some UFO video. Actually my paper in high school on Pearl Harbor is probably what piqued my curiosity about that documentary. Anyway, after watching it and then spending a couple of weeks examining the evidence and the arguments for and against it, there was no doubt left in my mind about it being an ‘inside job.’ (Of course, I now realize that that documentary on 9/11 is a limited hangout but still a great introduction for anyone with an open mind.) My worldview changed completely and permanently. I spent the next month hoovering everything conspiracy related that I could, with one principle guiding my endeavors: I would never ignore something or refuse to consider it just because I thought it was implausible. I still try to uphold that.
With Reddit’s help, I quickly got into the Sandyhook hoax and the Boston Bombing hoax (back when they were promoting hoaxes). So I was sort of primed for that when somebody on Reddit posted about Miles. I guess that would have been late February or early March of 2016. And the rest is history. Real history. Not fake history. My life has not been the same since. Thank goodness!
So now it’s your turn — let’s hear your stories. (Note if this is your first time commenting here, your comment will automatically go to moderation. It might go to moderation even if it isn’t your first time. Yes you need to leave an email to comment but it doesn’t need to be a real email address.)
I found out about Miles Mathis from a youtube comment under a video about Charles Manson. When I looked up his name I thought that scruffy guy on youtube was him and became very confused when I found the website and seen his pictures. I looked for the charles manson pdf but while I was doing that I seen all these other interesting papers. So I downloaded everything that caught my eye. Didn’t agree at first but now I cant stop reading. I even feel like making a change and fighting back or that I actually CAN make a change and fight back. Anyways I show my family and show my friend his stuff all the time and even read it to them even though they get mad at me for it.
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Raymond D. said:
Thanks for your story (taking a break from reading MM’s latest paper) and yes, the Manson paper seems to be the start of the thread for many of us, at least it was for me as far as I recall.
I showed my Mum the “JFK was Gay” paper and she saw it was a slam dunk, and she was a big Kennedy fan.
Makes sense. Im surprised your mom read that paper even though she was a JFK fan. My sister is a fan of Harry Styles and I tried to show her Miles’ paper on him but she wouldn’t listen or read it. Did reading it make your mom stop being a fan of JFK and does your mom read Miles’ papers now?
Raymond D. said:
She still likes JFK but has accepted he was Gay. I haven’t shown her the big JFK paper.
Harry's Pretzel Mug said:
I bet she’ll be especially startled to learn that his death was a hoax.
R T said:
And that is exactly the purpose of those planted pictures of that ugly scruffy smoker. To confuse and hopefully scare off anyone looking into Miles’ website.
I have been a truther for a long time and the 1990 Persian Gulf War was the first major catalyst in my journey of awakening.
Being anti-war (or pro-peace as Ron Paul would later refer to it) has been the reason why I’ve questioned everything else and I’ve been searching for a long time not only the Truth About Everything so to speak but also How Do We Fix This Shit.
In college (early 1990s) I ran into a group called the Advocates for Self-Government (started by a FRITZ) and the US Libertarian Party and ran into a lot of people on similar paths who had more to debate with than “Fuck those hippies!”, “Smash the state, back to farms” or “I guess I’m voting for Clinton since he’s like, not Bush?” which was refreshing.
While I still strongly resonate with what later became the “Non-Aggression Principle” I understand it for the propaganda that it is now.
Like Josh, Miles and others, 9/11 was a catalyst for truth-seeking although I didn’t start to really question it until much later (2006ish) as the years following 9/11 were a dark and depressing time for me and my political viewpoint relegated to “Fuck Bush” while I struggled with life. I did however run across and read from cover to cover William Cooper’s book “Behold a Pale Horse” in 2004 and that set the stage for the next phase.
The time around the 2007/2008 economic crisis and the TARP bailouts in the US was the origin of my most recent trip down the rabbit hole.
I got into Ron Paul and Alex Jones round about the same time as Miles did and was quite active in both 2008 and 2012 RP campaigns. Watched Loose Change and some other similar works, along with stuff like “America: Freedom to Fascism”, “The Money Masters”, “World According to Monsanto”, “Food, Inc.”, “Zeitgeist”.
Like Raymond D, I got really into Max Keiser and the Saker and like Josh really bought the whole Ruppert story at first – now I think his suicide was staged as part of his op and he’s probably living the rest of his life out in Belize or something.
I first ran across Miles’ work I think in 2013 or 2014, I want to say in the ZeroHedge comment section and both his science and non-science papers lifted me out of the morass of controlled opposition and psych operations that I was buried in and I haven’t looked back since. I was skeptical at first but the paper that really got me hooked was lindy, about Charles Lindbergh. I then spent the next months going over all of his papers and check at least weekly for anything new to this day.
I also very much enjoyed his more light-hearted works like Tom Thumb, Sif and Trelawney (I read this while camping in a national forest, what a great memory) and The Farbanks Folios.
His work on tidal motion and charge in the solar system answered a lot of questions I’ve had since college and I will be attempting to contribute to this work in the coming years. Kinematic pi makes 100% sense to me but it took a while to comprehend the charge and relativity papers.
Ick – I meant “Tom Turtle” not “Tom Thumb”…
Flavius Stilicho said:
My 1st real shock was 911 and I am sure it was to many but I was still years away to get to the point. I think first I needed to achieve some stability in life, be mentally mature and of course express interest in the truth to start connecting the dots.
I had all sorts of encounters with low profile Jws, Israelis and crypto-Jws in my life.
My road to faith was a rocky one but eventually produced good results and it’s hard to distract me from Jesus Christ who if you like it or not is in the center of all that’s going on thanks to efforts on both the believers and the Pharisee.
I am a supporter of Catholicism as parts of the world that were or are still managed by them (provided not subverted by J*wish/fascist welfare state and Intelligence toys) are more peaceful.
I come across Miles very late, mid 2021. I don’t believe in “by accident” but I found his article while going through Telegram’s social media refined garbage.
Since search engines are f*cked it’s much harder to hit websites like his and because I am not an artist or a scientist by definition that makes it even harder.
At first it kind of reminded me Holistic Politics by Carl S. Milsted but I disagreed with the man as I don’t believe in his flavor of meritocracy and going through life without causing any resistance. I don’t think you can have a proper journey in this world without making any enemies like there are no wicked people around. I think at some point you have to take the side. Miles is technical but I don’t think he overdo rather he simplifies things which I like.
What Miles does naturally converges with the work of Catholic saints and many Christian thinkers which is astonishing.
And this great convergence of truth is my new personal experience, it could be it’s not just mine.
I, too have grown much more appreciative of Catholicism and the teachings of Christ with which I was raised as a child. Had I simply stayed humbly with that I would have been, in a way, better off but stray I did and perhaps that is a part of spiritual evolvement. We — some of us — must fall to really appreciate that our parents and ourselves and our churches are never perfect. Now I have a special respect and appreciation for Hinduism and Falun Dafa and Buddhism and Mormonism as well. Anything but the Church of Hollywood. Ideally anything but the Church of Hollywood. But even the Devotees of that twisted church will eventually see the light as well and want to leave for something better. We are all like rocks in a rock tumbler so to speak.
I came across Miles’ work about 17~ish years ago. Or more precisely, Miles rescued me while i was wandering around in the wilderness looking for answers
i cant recall exactly but i think it was around the time of Miles’ celesetial Mechanics paper in 2004
I was always interested in Ancient Aliens and Ancient Technology and fascinated by how these things could have been built thousands of years ago
I was also highly skeptical of maths and physics, and was going through a fair few arguments about the moon landings being faked
I came across a site by Richard C Hoagland – The Enterprise Mission.
This was a strange site as he/it seemed to do the opposite of the other debunking sites and he was 100% sure the landings were real, but the reasons for the confuddlement was to disguise buildings and structures on the moon, left there millions/billions of years ago by ancient aliens
The funny thing is, in hindsight what he was actually proving was that there WERE actually structures visible in the photos and he was getting it all arse backwards. He was clearly showing Aircraft Hangars, Lights, other equipment and claiming they were alien structures!! Occam’s razor mate…
But one thing he talked about that caught my attention was HyperDimensional Physics and he was trying to explain the hexagon on Jupiter using this jargon.
This interested me as i knew something was wrong about physics so i started to follow some forums and chats about this
Its a long time ago and my memory is hazy and my old computer is in the loft with all my emails from back then in a local pst file but i think what happened was there was a forum where i asked a question about HyperDimenional physics and whether there was any merit to it
I was answered by a guy called Miles and told this was all bullshit and he gave a link to his website which i visited and then we emailed a couple of times
The website was amazing and i have been hooked ever since. Hyperdimensional physics went out the window to be replaced by Mathisian Maths/Physics (as it is now called but back then it was just Miles and some PDFs and some html web pages)
i know and understand Truth when i see, hear and read it and i have been logging on and refreshing my browser 3x times a day ever since, awaiting new papers
Changed my life forever and for the better. So many papers have changed my life in so many ways
I’d have to say that my entry into the “conspiracy theory” world was from a gun show- bought book that a housemate had. It was called “The Word Controlled Humans- a brief history”. Around the same time I picked up a copy of William Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse”. We are talking about 20 to 25 years ago. I also would listen to AM Coast to Coast on the radio late at night in those days, more for just entertainment while making long drives late at night than anything else. I was very interested in UFO’s, considering that I had seen things flying in the night skies that I assumed couldn’t possibly be creations of man. Of course Whitley Strieber was a regular guest on the subject there, and he was outed by Cooper a long time ago. Of course Cooper himself was a spook and probably faked his own death. At this time I really got into “libertarian” ideas and read up on Objectivism and other Rand writings. I also discovered Ron Paul and his anti-fed bank views. I still think he’s genuine.
I first read Miles’s work on April 9th 2022; a date which separates my life into before Miles and after Miles.
Before Miles, my mind was like a boat docked at harbour whereas after Miles, it was adrift in rocky seas with no land in sight. Before Miles my mind was like a segmented worm whereas after Miles it was metamorphosed into a Monach butterfly. Before Miles, yeah, you get the idea – he changed my whole world view and I was disturbed greatly in the process.
I feel mentally disorientated at times because the people around me live in my past reality whereas I am in my post Miles future.
I am alone with the truth; truth that is difficult to share without inviting some level of social ostracism. (Websites like this are so important as like minded people are necessary and rare.)
On that fateful Saturday of April 9th (three weeks ago today), I followed a comment on a covid substack post to Mathis’s website to find out what on earth a “spook” was. When I saw the pages of papers with titles like, “The Christopher Reeve Project was Staged” and “The Natalee Holloway Case is Fake Fake Fake” I knew I had found the Holy Grail (which I later found out had also been faked) of conspiracy theories.
I must have speed read around 30 papers in about four days. I instinctively knew they were authentic. Miles writes with old fashioned honesty (little did I know at the time just how “old fashioned” honesty was – those bloody Phoenicians!), good humour, humility, intelligence and determination while wielding outstanding genealogy research skills. I am hooked. And I am saved.
I no longer have any reason to fear men as the Men-Are-Pigs project is fake. Not that I feared them much anyway, except in dark alleyways perhaps, but I did wonder about all the serial killers. All fake. Yay!
I no longer feel a resentment towards liberal politics because now I understand that it’s origins were noble – to protect the common people from the theiving, entitled aristocracy – but that it was infiltrated and corrupted from within to become this cesspool of pink haired, trans promoting, communism pushing, antifa rioting, safe space fostering retards. It is all a lie. These people are actors and many others have simply been conned. So I don’t have to be a conservative anymore just to not be them. I like conserving things that work but I can re-examine what it means to be liberal without the Intelligence add-ons. That was a true paradigm shift in political thinking.
I no longer have any regard for celebrities or the CEOs of big corporations. I have been freed from any kind of envy of them. I already hated watching Hollywood movies and now I know why! These peerage brats are just spoiled and selfish parasites.
I know why I hate modern art. I know why it is promoted and that it is all a lie. I know that promoted people are hacks and running Intelligence projects and I know what they are trying to achieve – project Chaos, project destroy Christianity, project destroy the nuclear family, destroy masculinity, destroy our ability to fight back in every possible conceivable way. I see it all now with my x-ray Mathis glasses. I have been given a super power. And I am eternally grateful. Thankyou Miles Mathis.
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Sounds very familiar. except I could only stomach 4 papers a day (with hyperlinks, that is..)
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Strange how closely this parallels my own experience. I got started somewhere in late 2019, just the right primer for the pandemic.
Why a monarch butterfly? I gather it is not much liked in these parts🦋😜
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Sorry, I just saw this comment. WordPress is tricky to use. Thankyou!
Phil C – what blog were you referring to? Your message has been deleted.
Phil C said:
Blog? Strange. I am unaware that any of my comments have been deleted.
Sorry Phil! My bad. I am just getting used to WordPress and this blog and got confused. It takes a bit of getting used to! Not very user friendly. Anyway, all good. 👍
Raymond D. said:
Well said and thanks for sharing.
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My journey started during the pandemic when i happen to chance upon a book on amazon that showed many questionable things about the pandemic. After that, I was scrolling through more books about conspiracies, and happened to chance across a book explained how the bombing of Hiroshima was fake, and in one of the reviews there was a link to a site exposing the 9-11, nuke, and moon hoax. At, first i was really skeptical and confused about how all of these huge events could be orchestrated, given that government were supposed to be independent. But by luck i found miles, which showed me all the genealogical connections and of how all the top elites are related by family; explaining how they were able to create all the scams and hoaxes worldwide.
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