[This is the thread to discuss the current corona virus psy-op.]
From Las Vegas, Pittsburg, Thousand Oaks to Russian Collusion and the Khashoggi assassination, false-flag hoaxes, conspoofacies, fake murders and other manufactured events are running non-stop around the world and around the corner.
A reader wrote in to suggest opening a comment section devoted to discussing current (faked) events. I thought it was a good idea and would provide a place where people could chime in on what’s going on in the news and even offer evidence for why they think the event was faked, hoaxed, manufactured, etc. (or why not). Have at it, unless you think it’s a waste of your time–in which case, don’t!
Michael Deloatch said:
What need have the elites of the feeble-minded who “support” them — assuming you meant politically? They have the world on a string regardless at this time, support or none.
If I follow your reasoning correctly here — how would an ignorant mule of some infectious agent they have been “endowed” guilty of anything other than gullibility? If a t******st slipped a b*** into your suitcase unbeknownst to you, does that make you a man slaughterer in any moral sense?
It’s all a great reset you know. There are lots and lots of dazzling acts here on the midway. Only David Copperfield knows how the tricks work. It’s magic!
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Michael Deloatch said:
(Was intended as a reply to suntzufighting’s latest post re Typhoid Mary.)
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suntzufighting said:
That is why I call it manslaughter. I don’t know US law, but in my Phoeney Mandate we follow Roman Dutch law, adulterated with some English common law. In our system, let’s say you shoot at somebody under the impression the gun is loaded with blanks. The person dies because unbeknowns to you somebody slipped in some hollow point Black Talons. This is regarded as involuntary manslaughter, wether due to ignorance or negligence. There was no intent to kill, but somebody is now dead due to your actions. It usually carries a much lower punishment than outright murder, mostly resulting in a suspended sentence. The link between the action and outcome is juridically established. Ignorance does not absolve, it only proves there was no intent. Therefore the Typhoid Mary weapons platforms are guilty of manslaughter.
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Michael Deloatch said:
OK, the teddy bears and candles and clotheslines are coming out now in memoriam. It’s all real. I repent.
US memorials to victims of COVID-19 pandemic taking shape
https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-joe-biden-health-pandemics-coronavirus-pandemic-cb2f3aafbc8516f4cea089f6268be1c2
Remember how before COVID happened, everybody lived forever and ever? Wasn’t that great? That darned Eve listening to the serpent in the Garden — took many thousands of years for the consequence, but now we have DEATH on planet Earth as a thing in the 2020’s! Oh, woe is us!
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suntzufighting said:
Gonna need a massive memorial for those 700 000 names. Should be ten times bigger than the Vietnam memorial.
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Jake Taylor said:
I wonder if Graphene Oxide in the vaccines is going to be used as some sort of Radio-frequency identification tag to track people without their cell phones.
Each person’s unique size and chemistry probably create a unique signature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-frequency_identification#Human_implantation
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Michael Deloatch said:
If that is so, then someone like Alex Jones can start hawking faraday cage thermal underwear that also has a socket to accept the wire from your tinfoil hat. The deluxe model will come with an RF blocking transmitter you recharge with a USB-C cable.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
What’s the significance of 33? I just posted a possible answer at https://cuttingthroughthefog.com/2018/05/16/the-mathisian-physics-primer-a-crowdsourcing-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-140761 in case anyone is interested. What’s the 33rd prime number? What’s pi?
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eksleja88 said:
An ominous website. I do believe the vaccines are part of a transhumanist agenda. With each shot they become more like machines.
https://horizons.gc.ca/en/2020/02/11/exploring-biodigital-convergence/
“More than a technological change, this biodigital convergence may transform the way we understand ourselves and cause us to redefine what we consider human or natural.”
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oregonmatt said:
Thanks for posting this. Whether or not they are able to achieve a “beautiful marriage” of digital and bio, they are at least telling us their wishes.
The covid “vaccines” are clearly a stepping stone towards that agenda.
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eksleja88 said:
Yes.
As is very often the case, the movies and series that manage to stay under the radar offer the most blatant of predictive programming.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8694364/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_10
Is this the future? One version of it in some family´s mind? A mixture of elements that will not be cotemporaneous, but which will all take place in due time?
The entertainment value is there also, if anyone is interested!
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A Spirit said:
Lol, this is a goldmine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_and_Years_(TV_series)
Episode 3: “In 2026, the banking crisis has led to a recession. Viv Rook proposes a national IQ test, with anybody with an IQ of less than 70 being barred from voting.”
I propose that anyone that is richer than x and his surname has a proximity to Cohen more than y, should be mandated to fake his own death immediately and retire to gay paradise islands.
Episode 4: “In 2027, voting is made universally mandatory, the coalition government collapses, and another general election is called. Countries become unstable: Greece leaves the EU, Italy’s government resigns, Hungary declares bankruptcy, and the United States leaves the United Nations in response to extreme nationalism.”
Will I have to endure until Episode 4 (or 2027) to see Greece leave the EU? Difficult… but maybe it’s worth it.
Episode 6: “As 2029 begins in the midst of a monkey flu pandemic, Bethany grudgingly tells Edith that her father sent Viktor to the death camp, fearful that she will be implicated in illegal activity and lose her implants. As attacks on journalists increase, the BBC shuts down.”
Hey, these guys might shut the BBC down in the future! Maybe the future is brighter than we thought…
Shalom, Phoenicians! Seriously now: fake a collapse of the media, like Miles suggested. You have the talent to make it believable, you’ve had it in you for centuries! You just have to quit the super long life SSRI-style uppers you’re taking lately. These damn drugs are making you lose one of your most important qualities: -ability to fake stuff plausibly-. I can only dread the possibility of a fake alien invasion…. Do you really think the 30yo virgins in the basement will make realistic CGI for that?!?
Do the media thing, guys. It will be better for all of us. We know you are sado-maso but… get over it and JUST DO IT!
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Logan said:
This plandemic was patented (virus genomes, tests, vaccines) as far back as 2000.
“https://odysee.com/@Corona-Ausschuss:3/Sitzung-60-Die-Zeit-ist-kein-flacher-Kreis-5-Martin:f”
From David E Martin, PhD (“M-CAM international”). No idea if this guy is legit.
OK, Fuellmich is the (sporadic) interviewer and the video is long (1h 50 min) so you’ll have to put up with that, but what Martin says sounds reasonably convincing. Most of the important info. is in the first 45 minutes.
For example
ca. 04:02 “We took the gene sequences which were reportedly novel, and reviewed those against the patent records that were available as of spring 2020. What we found was 120 patented pieces of evidence to suggest that the declaration of a novel corona virus was actually entirely a fallacy.”
ca. 38:10 Documented quote from Peter Daszak (Eco Health Alliance) in 2015
..”we need to increase public understanding of the need for medical countermeasures such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process.”
Further documents available at
“https://corona-ausschuss.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/SARS-CoV-Patent-Corpus-Lit-Review-online.pdf”
“https://f.hubspotusercontent10.net/hubfs/8079569/The%20FauciCOVID-19%20Dossier.pdf”
Any ideas if this really is genuine or just an internecine feud with Fow Chee? At the moment I tend towards genuine.
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Ramsay said:
Info on the (not) new ‘Delta variant’.
Brain Waves and Hypnosis
Gamma waves: above 40 Hz – Bursts of insight, high level info processing.
Beta waves: 40 Hz – 14 Hz. – Normal brain waves.
Alpha waves: 14Hz – 7.5 Ht. – Relaxed brain waves. Gateway to subconscious. Intuition.
Theta waves: 7.5 Hz. – 4 Hz. Hypnosis. Light sleep. REM dream state. Subconscious.
Delta waves: 4 Hz. – .05 Hz. Deep sleep. Awareness detached. Unconscious mind. Gateway to universal mind. Collective unconscious.
Perhaps the new ‘Delta Variant’ is here after all. The “awareness” of the masses (or maskies) is definitely “detached”.
Interesting article about military Delta mind control:
Military Delta Mind Control, Bo Gritz & MK-Ultra
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/mind_control/news.php?q=1261080742
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Maria said:
I guess this could be sign of a split within the power structure: “Hackers shut down system for booking COVID-19 shots in Italy’s Lazio region“. More of this please.
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suntzufighting said:
Ever wondered about those shadows burned on walls&sidewalks in Hiroshima? Why would the silhouettes leave a scorched area since it is in shadow? Turns out it is a very interesting phenomenon, finally succumbing to scientific inquiry. It is not the shadows that were scorched, it is the surrounding area that was bleached!
https://www.livescience.com/nuclear-bomb-wwii-shadows.html
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Jared Magneson said:
There were some really good websited debunking the entire nuclear hoax awhile back, not as clean and awesome as Miles’ papers, but they completely eroded all the shadows and other “footage” in Hiro and Naga at least. But I cannot find them at all now, I mean there’s just no way with today’s censorship. I tried for awhile. But yeah, the “bleached” part was complete bullshit. Right next to a lot of those “shadow people” were objects that would have also “cast shadows”, such as cars, structures, etc. and nope, no shadows. That’s the best I can explain it now, as it’s been many years since I reviewed all of that.
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Stephen said:
Here are a couple blatant (Kennedy/white-hat?) spooks and their eerily similar websites. Perhaps you know of them.
Catherine Austin Fitts
https://home.solari.com/
David Martin
https://www.m-cam.com/
Here is Dr. Martin’s interview with Reiner Fuellmich, another character who has lots of red flags but I have not yet researched. This interview is worth your time even if he’s lying, because he has unbelievable command over his material, i.e. patent investigation. It seems like it will be boring for the first few minutes, then it goes full-Mathis, shock-a-minute.
https://ugetube.com/watch/full-interview-there-is-no-variant-not-novel-no-pandemic-dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich_TGkKMeYT9bfENEO.html
Martin’s primary points: no novel virus; gain of function research was for the vaccine.
Here’s Fitts on the global currency takedown:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2gOry8TO3U9b/
Fitt’s primary points: central banks are “going direct,” weaponizing national debt and pensions against the dollar to impose global banking and financial tracking to an individual level. The Phoenicians are perhaps leveraging 90 trillion of debt to buy out the planet.
Help me out, guys: I am aware that these are spooks, but if this is the latest model of paralleling/misdirection, which part is the disinfo?
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Logan said:
@Steven
Good that someone else also found this (see my comment above). Martin’s CV is a bit too brilliant to be true (see the website, there is also a hyped up personal one at “https://www.davidmartin.world/” ). In addition there was all the stuff about policing chemical & biological weapons etc he talked about in the interview.
Education: “undergraduate (BA) from Goshen College, Masters of Science from Ball State University, and his Doctorate (PhD) from the University of Virginia.” Majoring in? not specified. photography perhaps?
And he is not listed as a Batten Fellow at the U.Virginia Darden Graduate School of Business Administration.
We only have his statements that the patent situation is as cut and dried as he maintains. Could be designed to fail in a legal setting.
The bow tie and shaved head are further irritants. Someone trying to look like a cross between a monk and a consultant surgeon?
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Stephen said:
Wow, we basically wrote the same comment. I promise I did not read yours first.
The Batten Research Fellows page is 404ing. This is a very specific claim for him to be making about his CV for it to be a lie, although it very well could be. I agree that bow ties after age 15 scream fraud.
My theory at the moment is that one set of spooks faked a virus and the other is faking a dangerous vaccine. I speculate that the main purpose of the fake virus was the fear/disruption/vaccine mandates, which form the needed predicate for additional “papers” onto which will be tacked social credit score and justification for financial monitoring–after all, the banks are at the center of all Pentagon stageplays. In this view, the vaccine itself is a red herring, probably saline or flu vax. Perhaps it was meant to be worse stuff, but was intercepted. In either case, its main role is to divide the country along a new fault line during the financial Reset (whatever form it might take) to hide how the new brand of sausage is made. After vaccine acceptance is established, a truly bad vax can be sent down the pipeline.
VAERS data must be simpler to fake than global case data, and is perhaps inflated by RFK Jrs. doctor legions who are “striking back” with their own brand of false reporting. I admit that I know too many people who fell mildly ill after their vaccines to write it all off as psychosomatic.
Best case scenario: “white-hat” aristocrats are trying to teach us what could have happened (or could still happen) so that we (partially) wake the fuck up. Basically, the cattlemen are protecting their investment.
Worst case scenario: there are no white hats. Vax is real mRNA, RFK is controlling vax opposition, massive blackwash is on the way.
With Kennedys involved our default assumption should be “100% hoax” until extreme evidence is provided. This is why I cannot jump on the “vax is murder” bus just yet, although I am definitely not getting stuck with a mystery needle. At first blush, Martin et alia don’t appear to be blackwashing a truth, so they must be whitewashing a lie. Either that or we are finding the Kennedys have become populists, in genuine opposition to Trump’s stealth-authoritarianism. Not buying it. Why would the vaccine be the first time they did something real instead of hoaxing us?
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Patrick said:
@Steven: For Fitts and Dark Journalist Daniel Liszt (who leads directly to Joseph P. Farrell, gay, of the hat, cigarettes and UFOs) see Miles’ 2/14/17 Nuclear paper.
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Wayne said:
Odd internet convergence on Farrell’s web site earlier this week. In a comment to an article on NASA and cold fusion, Miles Mathis is cited.
https://gizadeathstar.com/2021/08/lenr-or-lanr-nasas-recent-work-on-cold-fusion-some-high-octane/
Comment by “Jay” at August 3, 2021 at 10:54 am:
“Indeed it does Dr Farrell. If I’m not mistaken , missing components are fusor coupled with principles behind Faraday Disc ( which were brilliantly explained by Miles Mathis if I remember correctly) . Whole thing with tokamak is pure nonsens made for a sole purpouse to waste time and money.”
PS the current image displayed on the site is of a hatless and many years younger, thinner Farrell.
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virusmyth666 said:
On a less interesting note, Fitts and Farrell have the same identical laughter.
Langley Fake Chuckle 101, part of their mandatory curriculum.
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Stephen said:
Uh, just to clarify, this other Stephen is not me. FYI. You guys already know I asked about Fool-Me Fuellmich several months back and I already know Fitts is controlled opposition (talk about putting lipstick on a pig…). Appropriate that paralleling is mentioned.
I would appreciate this other Stephen differentiate themselves accordingly. I’ve been posting with the same email address for over a year now which Josh should be able to confirm.
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Days_End said:
This is the new Stephen. I just jumped in here. Happy to switch my moniker for the sake of clarity.
Yes, this is a Kennedy psy-op and Fitts is not a trustworthy name–Bush, Jr’s assistant housing director is a bad CV. My point here is that there is another interpretation available besides paralleling for a mega-blackwash down the road: RFK may be planning to detonate the covid hoax on Biden’s watch, taking vaccine blame away from Trump. I believe this culminates in the confession by Obama’s camp that no vax was administered and a confession by China that the virus doesn’t exist, so it couldn’t have leaked.
The “no virus” meme broke mainstream this week. Not hard to see the “dangerous vaccine” meme right behind it. It is my belief that “fake vaccine” will be hot on its heels, which basically declares Trump the savior of the planet, but only if the danger of the narrowly avoided vaccine is highlighted first.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Days_End/Steven: Trump pushed the vaccine and the Covid narrative too, if you don’t recall. The only people who think he could be a savior are the just-as-addled right-wing Statists, begging for yet another overweight, unhealthy rich liar to come in and save them. And the “no virus” meme isn’t a meme at all. It’s a position. It’s the honest one, in this case. I feel like many of you don’t know what a meme is and it’s just silly.
Literally millions of us have been pushing the “no virus” stance this entire time, so I don’t know why you think it broke just this week. This is one of the major problems with people avoiding social media – you end up a year behind, on things like this. With regular State media, you get brainwashed one way and one way only. With social media, you get the OPTION to ignore all that shit and collect a pile of pals who also ignore that shit, and then ACTUAL meme the fuck out of the entire psy-op. Lately it’s been all about slamming the smallhats, which is hilarious on its own but also the best way to dodge all their censorship. It’s also hilarious that their “AI-driven” (fake) advanced algorithms can’t handle “smallhats” at all.
But how is this a “Kennedy psy-op”? It’s a Tyrant one across the board. The only Statist rulers that dissented have been offed, or allegedly offed, so I don’t really see where you’re going with this and it seems like you’re saying that RFK is some kind of savior instead? Weird.
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Days_End said:
I’m unfamiliar with the way these wordpress reply chains work but I don’t see a way to reply to Jared Magneson directly. This reply is directed at him despite being connected to Stephen’s comment (OG Stephen, that is).
I said “the no virus meme broke mainstream,” you took it as “nobody suspected there wasn’t a virus until this week. You read an ignorance of the meaning of the word ‘meme’ into this statement as well. Acknowledging the prior existence of the no-virus position is literally half of the point of that sentence, the other half being that “normies” on twitter are now saying it. And if you think “meme” means “silly cat video,” you’re the one being colloquial. I’ll give you that it is a stupid word and that I am detached from social media. It is sometimes a shortcoming, but I like to think the advantages outweigh the downside.
The RFK psy-op is the idea that the vaccine is dangerous. I suspect the events in the links below are not red herrings and the vaccine is saline.
https://www.fox9.com/news/2-patients-receive-saline-shots-instead-of-covid-19-vaccine-doses-in-sauk-centre
https://nypost.com/2021/04/19/walgreens-store-injected-saline-instead-of-covid-19-vaccine/
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/six-people-in-vaughan-ont-injected-with-saline-instead-of-covid-19-vaccine/ar-BB1fRiTP
They even vaccinated the control group in the Pfizer study, eliminating a potential source of hugely useful information.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/02/19/969143015/long-term-studies-of-covid-19-vaccines-hurt-by-placebo-recipients-getting-immuni
Did they really vaccinate their control group…or did they placebo their therapy group? I say everyone received placebos and were just told different, then they wrote over their own work with a second placebo to hide the fact that there is no distinction between groups. This is a parsimonious explanation for what is otherwise a gigantic scientific fuck-up.
The dangerous vax idea works exactly like the “lab leak” hypothesis–it’s a hot potato and nobody wants it to land on them. The words “lab leak” put pressure on China to say it was a hoax, as it would otherwise be a war crime against the planet, for which their foreign assets would be confiscated.
Just the same, if the vaccine is called a deadly gene therapy, many pencil-neck spooks are going to be under pressure to say it couldn’t be, because it didn’t exist. I believe the technology to make the mRNA vaccine is real, I just don’t believe it happened, much like SpaceX, or most events in history.
It is interesting to see a forum full of people who know hoaxes work BETTER than the real thing, and who can detect hoaxes through solid brick, still so certain that this vaccine is a real event. Why? VAERS data? Can someone please explain why they have such rock-solid confidence in this?
“Dangerous mRNA vaccine” is the low-ball offer. “Trump swapped it for a placebo” is what is being negotiated. This provides the moment of relief that allows you to forgive him for his fakery, which is likely not of his design anyway.
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Josh said:
@Days_End
Welcome to the forum. It takes guts to come out blazing in your first post telling us we’re wrong.
My answer to you is simple: I have seen or heard about seriously bad vaccine reactions through my personal networks. I don’t need to rely on VAERS to see that there’s something fucky with these new gene therapies.
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benjamin said:
Days end,
I realise personal anecdote can’t count as proof for anyone but me, but like josh, I too have seen firsthand some bad reactions to this vaccine. it was definitely not saline causing that. Also, your view is totally US centric. Even if Trump did a saline swap in vaccines (he didn’t), he wouldn’t have authority to do that anywhere but America, but this thing is global. So that argument totally fails.
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Days_End said:
Josh, Benjamin,
I agree with you both–I have seen these mild adverse reactions first hand. However, I do not think this does as much damage to my thesis as you’d think.
What if the “Trump placebo” was instead a flu vax, with many genuine adverse reactions among which could be hidden hoax deaths and the wild side-effects that make the alt-news headlines?
Alternatively, what if the Pfizer second shot was an end-run around Trump’s placebo swap? Meaning many folks did get a “real” vaccine, but stopping this from happening was deemed either not possible or the lesser evil.
I am just seeing a poor interrogation of “what’s in the needle” happening here–everyone else is agreeing staunchly with the Kennedy-backed hypothesis. I can acknowledge that some amount and degree of adverse reactions are happening, indicating that some shots are not ONLY saline. However, I have presented medium quality evidence that it is SOMETIMES saline. Can someone present any evidence that it is ever mRNA?
I have to limit this to the US as I believe there could easily be many versions of the vaccine problem around the globe. I know this will be nothing more than a Trump apologia to some, but please read for logical consistency and try not to characterize my motivations.
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tony martin said:
The thing that keeps sticking in my mind is this.
Their own statistics show that if you have the virus between the ages of 0 to 70, you have a 99% survival rate. And if you’re over 70, the survival rate is nearly 95%. Take some fucken vitamin C or get on a better diet for christ’s sake if you’re afraid.
And I heard the masks are making deformities, tooth decay and acne in children’s faces.
So even if it was real or not, it’s complete bullshit anyway.
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rsack said:
Yes, and I have also heard of several people in my area having dental problems from wearing masks regularly over the last year
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Michael Deloatch said:
That will be of no concern long term. I understand that with practice, it becomes rather easy to gum insect protein into swallow-size bits.
My youngest sister, who was born after I hit adolescence, blithely rushed to get the vaccine several months ago, but I have no idea which brand it was. She and I have had heated discussions in the past about many aspects of this obscene coup. To her mind, I am a deluded “trumpster” — although she is quite mistaken on that count as well. I have never said a word that I recall in her presence pro-trump, so it is clearly propaganda that put that idea into her head. (I joked that I thought I raised her better than that.)
In the past several weeks, that baby sister of mine has developed a strange cyst behind her earlobe. Her physician told her it is benign and very likely caused literally by incessant face masking.
Sigh…
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tony martin said:
I’m not Nostradamus or anything like that but,I think the masks will probably kill more people than anything else.
The scariest and most troubling thing to me is people are reporting and seeing “Facial Distortions” especially in children that wear masks. WTF!!
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Wayne said:
If Craig Murray, a UK journalist, former UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan, and a repeat whistleblower, is the first person incarcerated in the UK over media contempt case in 50 years, is he really in jail? The incident is related to the current Assange project.
Hint: Murray(s) are in the Book of the Phoenies.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
I think you’ve got him sussed, Wayne…
Born 17 October = 81 – chai – 1947 (an auspicious date in spook circles).
Farther – Robert Cameron Brunton Murray
Brunton – well connected spooky family :-
Sir Thomas Lauder Brunton, 1st Baronet, big in pharmacology, he later converted to Islam and took up the name Jalaluddin Lauder Brunton. Paul Brunton, big in Theosophy. John Gerard Bruton (born 18 May 1947) is an Irish former Fine Gael politician who served as Taoiseach (Irish PM) from 1994 to 1997.
Cameron – another well connected spooky family… David Cameron (ex-PM) ’nuff said!
Craig Murray was a staunch Alex Salmond supporter during the Nicola Sturgeon SNP sex debacle, a very fishy affair designed to black-wash the SMP and their cronies to avoid the possibility of yet another Scottish independence referendum.
I think it is probable that the whole bunch are working for the SIS. So no chance Craig Murry, who is part of the controlled opposition, will spend much time in the nick. Although the ridiculous prison sentence for a fairly minor offence till certainly enhance his street-cred.
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Lewis reid said:
The SNP are controlled opposition, the referendum is a classic divide and conquer tactic to keep the Tory fascists in power.
I remember the Labour party in the late 70s and the way the unions stitched them up to give that witch Thatcher the election with their loony left pantomime. Jeremy Corbijn, ex-labour leader, continued the pantomime, deliberately unelectable with his ‘friends-to-terrorists’ persona (amongst other things), like Michael Foot before him, a peacenik while the Falklands conflict was hatched, Neil Kinnock, CND-man while the Russians were threatening to make more missiles, etc. (Blair doesn’t count, he’s a Tory in Labour clothes.) UK is a one party state with a clown/trickster/shyster as PM.
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Graham said:
The only asset the Labour party has had in the last thirty years was John Smith.
He was so good at opposition, turning the Tories into a laughing stock in Parliament he had to be retired with a heart attack. Blair got in surfing his wave. (not withstanding election fraud obviously). Maybe poor John never got to go to Bilderberg so didn’t have the credentials to take office. Also he appeared to have integrity, which would never do.
Blair gave us backdoor NHS privatisation, an Iraq War whilst blackwashing Catholicism, and a faked Royal death, whilst the gargoyle running the exchequer gave us massive pension fund theft. And thats just the obvious stuff from mainstream news!
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rolleikin said:
Murray is a Jewish surname:
https://tinyurl.com/kc8dsjs9
and a common Jewish first name.
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Wayne said:
Boris, Thanks for the details.
A Murray that came to my mind is F Murray Abraham, Hollywood actor.
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MathisderMaler said:
Yeah, the Murray thing is faked, he surrendered himself August 1, aces and eights. And he’s a Murray, that is a Stanley.
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mswinkle said:
So our incompetent sociopath governor is demanding business, restaurants, stores refuse to serve anyone who doesn’t show their vx papers. Unfortunately, I am surrounded by people who have totally lost their mind and clapping for this. It is horrifying how many people have lost their minds and no longer seem to be able to think through the facts and make informed decisions. even some friends and family who I would have never believed could become this extreme, it seems the fear has liquified their ability to see reality. Moving at the moment is not an option, but if this madness continues to ramp up it is going to be extremely difficult to live here if you are excluded from everything and will probably lose your job.
like many it is really hard to stay positive. be it telling your kids to get vx if they want to go to medical school or any school, to being not allowed to go to the store or out to eat etc.
How are others staying positive through this? What will you do if they are actually able to ban you from all aspects of life if you don’t comply? I have elderly parents who live in another country will they make it impossible to visit them unless vx?
@Josh what are you doing. I think on 8/8 VX’x will be mandated and you will need a passport to go anywhere. What are you doing?
Thanks all for listening
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Kevin said:
The governors are sociopaths, but not incompetent. They are competently following the script that was handed down to them by their overlords. A handful have resisted to some degree, but all of them treat the pandemic and virus as real and of course promote the toxic injection. I assume your governor is Cuomo. I get the feeling he and DeBlasio have either been blackmailed or were promised the world in exchange for their souls, because in my opinion nothing else can explain their transparently totalitarian behavior and willful destruction of NY state and city.
It’s the petty tyrants and their frontline goon squads in the health departments, etc. that are keeping this abuse going, and they will continue to unless and until they start feeling the heat from the abused. Indeed, perhaps the only way things will change is if people start harassing them continuously whenever they are out and about in public. This includes staking out where they live and harassing them as they come and go. This happened to my county health department chief early on when pissed off folks set up outside his home and harassed him continuously for quite a few weeks. But they were small in number and could only keep it up for so long.
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mswinkle said:
When I said incompetent I meant it in how Miles has shown modern art was promoted to allow people with zero talent pretend they were artist. The least capable were being lauded as brilliant. So when I speak of them as incompetent I mean literal idiots although willing idiots who are given this power because they will push this BS
Here in NY especially NYC I am not sure they will get much pushback. AS I said initially, I have some friends and family, people I have known for decades, so filled with fear, that they can not process anything that does confirm their fear. It reminds me of the Twain quote, but possible he did not say it. It is easier to lie to people then tell them they have been lied to. Yes, when people have given up so much, put their lives on hold, stopped seeing their family etc etc I think it will be very difficult for them to accept they did it for nothing
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Jared Magneson said:
Well I’ve also been inundated with nonsense by a paltry, pathetic “governor” (Inslee, in Washington State) this entire time and it’s worked out best for me to just IGNORE IT ALL. I shop where I want, I do what I want, and go where I want – just like before.
I stay positive partly because I’m just a cheerful person (if you hadn’t noticed!) but also through sheer force of will and anger at these Tyrant bastards and their stupid shenanigans. I make it FUN! I’ve only had a few altercations so far and nobody actually wants to fight or anything. You just refuse.
“Oh, you’re still playing pandemic?”
“No thanks, I’m fine.”
“That’s alright, I don’t need to do that but you go ahead.”
“Fuck you.”
All of those responses are appropriate and work, depending on the situation. What would I do if they were actually able to ban me from things? Well, so far they’ve FAILED, so I’m not too worried about more draconian measures and even up here in the land of the libtards, MOST people are ignoring all the nonsense as well.
So I guess we’ll just see how things go, if they want to do more restrictions. All the businesses that could get crushed have been, it seems like. The damage has been done already. But many are thriving despite the mandates, because they also REFUSE. My barber is doing great, and he started his new shop DURING the stupid mandates. The Health Department tried shutting him down three times and he brushed them aside simply by threatening lawsuits. You just gotta STAND UP.
And I for one welcome the challenge, anymore. Try me. TEST ME. So far, nobody has. I’m not even physically intimidating, I just stand my ground. Anyone can do this.
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A Spirit said:
@mswinkle ” Unfortunately, I am surrounded by people who have totally lost their mind and clapping for this. It is horrifying how many people have lost their minds and no longer seem to be able to think through the facts and make informed decisions.”
For me the true horror is that these kind of people are watching the government openly blackmail a huge segment of the population, and they are going along with it (more than half the population of greece is unvaccinated; the vaccination rate is 48,7% -if- we’re to believe their numbers). I saw articles (from regular mainstream “news” outlets) saying stuff like “The unvaccinated are going to pay the price of their (non) action, metaphorically and literally”, “The noose is tightening for the unvaccinated”, “The unvaccinated will need to pay for rapid/PCR tests to go to the supermarket” etc. This is clear blackmail, plain and simple, and the people that are going along with it and even cheering for it are NOT INNOCENT.
” even some friends and family who I would have never believed could become this extreme, it seems the fear has liquified their ability to see reality.”
I have lost the respect I had for my relatives because of their attitude since March 2020, especially since the vaxx rollout. They ALL have disappointed me enormously, but.. talking about extreme: My uncle (doctor) who used to pose as liberal and antifascist (for all his life) has said to me stuff like “you will face the consequences of not getting the vaxx” and “you are like the blahblah that is -endangering the pack-“. This amount of pressure was what was needed for some people to turn into outright fascists? Apparently I was surrounded by fakes all my life. I daily fight the urge to tell some people very close to me to f-off. Shame on them for their weakness, and indecency.
“How are others staying positive through this?”
It is very hard to stay positive. I personally get some solace with prayer, physical exercise (very important), bettering myself and reading Miles’ papers (especially “Spirit and the Muse” in hard times like that). I have the “luck” to not have a wife, or kids and I am unemployed so I don’t have these possible additional pressures that, frankly, I don’t think I could handle. For me, a positive thing is that many people have outed themselves as cowards/fascists and some few have shown how virtuous they are (like an old friend of mine who is resisting furiously) so we will know who is who in the future. Another positive thing is that The Goal has now, finally, become pretty clear “Resist the vaccine”.
I am also actively encouraging myself to be hopeful. I think it was Jared Magneson who said it, hope is like mental charge. It keeps you going. And we need that kind of fuel because, in a time like that, if you give up you’re toast.
And finally, deep inside, I AM hopeful because I have witnessed that in many dark periods in my life, some kind of redemption comes after the darkest, most painful moments. But only if you don’t give up. I honestly, genuinely believe that we are doing the correct thing, and if we keep resisting, help will finally arrive. Don’t know in what form, but that’s what I feel.
I would also love to hear from Josh about what’s happening/will happen in Israel, and what his views are. Are they bluffing? etc
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Patrick said:
Another chaotic splitting of the public has been achieved by this Covid psyop, and devilishly brilliant work it’s been. You are now either vaxxed or unvaxxed and the demonization of the unvaxxed is proceeding apace. A piece in USA Today titled “The unvaccinated don’t have the right to give us COVID. Crack down on them, not us” is behind the paywall, but I found a portion of it reprinted: “The unvaccinated should be required to disclose their status, so that the people they come into contact with can make informed decisions about their own health and safety. They should be required to mask and distance when they are in public spaces. They should be required to quarantine when they travel. To make all this possible, we need to accelerate the use of effective vaccine passports. And health insurance companies can and should impose added costs on the unvaccinated, just as they do for smokers.”
The allegation that the vaxxed are testing positive and acting as spreaders is not mentioned much, and never noted in story after story that is pushing vaccines. Never mind for example, “a COVID-19 outbreak earlier this month in a Massachusetts county that’s home to Cape Cod found that 74% of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people.” Maybe this is true, and maybe it’s just another exaggeration to fuel up no-vaxxers like me.
We’re told that Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, LA is out of beds due to the Surge Of The Deadly Delta Variant. Fear not, Baton Rouge, “The facility welcomed a 33-member disaster strike team from the federal government on Monday…”. Of course there are 33 of them.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215693383
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/no-deaths-few-hospitalizations-but-74-of-those-testing-positive-for-covid-19-in-massachusetts-outbreak-were-vaccinated/ar-AAMKFVq?ocid=uxbndlbing
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_1dae7910-f3ba-11eb-9b6c-734432970ae6.html
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Graham said:
Patrick,
Apart from disapproving in general of any divide and rule tactic, if anyone should be in any doubt as to who should be footing any additional covid costs, I would say it is the vaccinated.
This is becuase their requirement for treatment is the greatest cost at the moment, so I am not sure it is fair to expect those who have avoided the harm to foot that bill.
When a local paramedic was approached by a friend, she was informed that they are now referring to their ambuances as, “jab cabs”, becuase nearly all their emergency calls are the result of adverse vaccine reactions.
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Patrick said:
Another chaotic splitting of the public has been achieved by this Covid psyop, and devilishly brilliant work it’s been. You are now either vaxxed or unvaxxed and the demonization of the unvaxxed is proceeding apace. A piece in USA Today titled “The unvaccinated don’t have the right to give us COVID. Crack down on them, not us” is behind the paywall, but I found a portion of it reprinted: “The unvaccinated should be required to disclose their status, so that the people they come into contact with can make informed decisions about their own health and safety. They should be required to mask and distance when they are in public spaces. They should be required to quarantine when they travel. To make all this possible, we need to accelerate the use of effective vaccine passports. And health insurance companies can and should impose added costs on the unvaccinated, just as they do for smokers.”
The allegation that the vaxxed are testing positive and acting as spreaders is not mentioned much, and never noted in story after story that is pushing vaccines. Never mind for example, “a COVID-19 outbreak earlier this month in a Massachusetts county that’s home to Cape Cod found that 74% of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people.” Maybe this is true, and maybe it’s just another exaggeration to fuel up no-vaxxers like me.
We’re told that Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, LA is out of beds due to the Surge Of The Deadly Delta Variant. Fear not, Baton Rouge, “The facility welcomed a 33-member disaster strike team from the federal government on Monday…”. Of course there are 33 of them.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215693383
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/no-deaths-few-hospitalizations-but-74-of-those-testing-positive-for-covid-19-in-massachusetts-outbreak-were-vaccinated/ar-AAMKFVq?ocid=uxbndlbing
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_1dae7910-f3ba-11eb-9b6c-734432970ae6.html
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mswinkle said:
It is hard to stay positive. Today they announced they will mandate vx to enter restaurants etc. if they get away with this, and unfortunately too many have no problem with this, it is only a matter of time before buildings where you live etc require it. I have no idea how far they will go and suing the government for most people is not an option + many courts are corrupt, so yeah it is looking really bleak.
many in my family and friends will just go a long with it. What are we suppose to do? pack up our stuff and leave alone in a uhaul?
I love to hear from Josh what is happening in Israel as their law takes effect on 8/8
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R T said:
These sick fucks never stop.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
That’s like mandating sunscreen to go to the beach because a few might get skin cancer. Or proving you have the polio vax to go to the pool. It’s mass hysteria.
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Benjamin said:
Yes, I have family who constantly moan about corrupt politicians and love to point out their bullshit – yet will not even consider the idea they could be lying about covid. It is cognitive dissonance on the highest level. It is worst in the injected – as they can’t go back on their jab, every piece of information they come across must confirm they made the correct decision to take it – and there are more and more of them every day.
We must stay strong. If it proceeds to mark of the beast prophecy and we can’t buy or sell without it, then to death we must go. Far better to save our soul and die honourably, then to live corrupted amongst zombies in dystopia. It’s not easy, but it’s worth it.
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mantalo said:
@benjamin : “then to death we must go”
“Live free or die” is a motto of the French Revolution.
It is engraved on the central monument of the Pantheon in Paris representing the National Convention.
It is also the official currency of the American state of New Hampshire (“Live Free or Die”), adopted by the state in 1945
This motto was then probably used during the war of 1870-1871. It appears in particular on the monument to the Savoyards who died for France located in Annecy in Haute-Savoie, at the crossroads of avenue de Genève and rue de l’Intendance.
“https://histoires-engagements.hautesavoie.fr/pdf/Devise-des-Glieres-Vivre-libre-ou-mourir-au-cours-du-temps.pdf”
Finally, this motto was that of the resistance fighters of the Maquis des Glières.
“During the winter of 1944, a group of resistance fighters from the Secret Army formed by soldiers and guerrillas and joined by Spanish Republicans then by FTP went up to the Glières plateau to receive parachute drops and there. stayed two months. It was Alphonse Métral – who, a few years earlier, passed every day in front of the war memorial of the 1870-1871 war to go to work -, who suggested to Tom Morel, head of the Maquis des Glières, this motto which is immediately adopted “.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_des_Gli%C3%A8res
it’s okay with me.
I’m French
I live in Annecy
and I go to the mushrooms at the glières plateau
therefore, this motto will be mine.
Hear me tyrants and dwarves, devotee to terror and martial law … let’s meet at Tom Morel’s (mush)room …
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Positive. I stay fairly positive by realizing that physical life is brief and that spiritual life comes afterward and should be much more enjoyable. I find it hard to identify with my body, except for the outward appearance of it. I identify more with my consciousness, which seems likely not to be dependent on a physical body.
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rolleikin said:
“Apparently I was surrounded by fakes all my life.”
Bingo.
Haven’t we all.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Spectator – 1 June 2021
“So farewell, then, to Israel’s vaccine passport, the green pass. Less than three months after coming into effect, the Covid vaccination certification scheme was scrapped today, along with almost all of the remaining Covid-19 restrictions in public places.
Israel was the first country to introduce a vaccine passport back in March. Cafes, bars, restaurants, gyms and plays were allowed to reopen to the public after months of lockdown, provided they only admitted vaccinated (and recovered) people. The pass took the form of a QR code downloaded from the health ministry or stored in a phone app.”
My view is that a huge majority of businesses will refuse to accept any pressure which could reduce the number of people coming through the doors with money to spend, and will not police vax passports. They’ve struggled to survive the lock-downs and many are on the verge of bankruptcy. Just another stupid bluff by the powers that be to pressure a few more of the unvaxxed to take the shot.
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mswinkle said:
That is old news. The new PM said it will be mandated from 8/8. Josh love to hear from you about all this and what you are seeing and doing
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R T said:
This does feel like a bluff. My dad already said I should take the shot because I will lose my job if I don’t — so the bluff still works on those asleep. But I recognize this as a bluff, and will continue to stand my ground. Should my job be threatened, I will sue. The mere suggestion of mandating any medical treatment for all employees breaks so many labor laws and employee’s rights that it blows my mind they think people will accept this.
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Kevin said:
I’ll admit I’ve been struggling lately with this madness. I mainly mourn for my own and all of the other children and young people who are facing such a dystopian future. Imagine having been born in the last 18 months and seeing so many masked zombie people around you every day – it’s the stuff of nightmares but then again we are in fact living in one. If it affects adults, it’s certainly causing some measure of long term mental/emotional damage to toddlers.
The fact that this project has advanced this far is unthinkable. The sheer size and scope of this crime is deeply discouraging and difficult to comprehend, but we must hold the line and resist their relentless attempts to destroy all that is virtuous and good.
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mswinkle said:
Agreed. I feel so many people have lost their mind and are unable to think clearly. It’s as if they can’t see the glaring contradictions, lies and hysteria. Even if they agree that people are not dropping like flies it seems in the next breath they are talking about masks, getting jabbed etc etc. Facts don’t matter, reality doesn’t matter, context doesn’t matter they might even agree with some of what you point out, but then continue with the program.
I don’t think I have ever experienced anything like it. EVER. Saying they are sheep or stupid does not explain what I am seeing. It is some sort of mental breakdown, but limited to this. I am not sure how to describe or categorize what I am witnessing maybe others here can do a better job.
Yes, what makes it so disturbing is it is happening in multiple countries all over the world. I had to stop talking to some family members in Europe because they were believing everything. This is a family member whose position was always politicians are liars, opposition is an illusion, media is full of BS, etc. When I bring up their views held for decades it is as if they have been replaced with someone else.
If this doesn’t stop, I agree, we are heading to a digital dystopian future
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virusmyth666 said:
Stay strong and positive.
This is a test. That’s how they operate.
Since the advent of the Chip and large scale computing, they’ve been probing society’s reaction to their fabricated events in order to assess and feed the observed effects into the next iteration of their algorithms so they can predict the next movement that according to their predictions will yield the best outcome for them in terms of gain of wealth and control.
It is Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars 101
Staying positive and resilient despite all the madness and sheepness
we see everyday all around us is the only way to stay sane right now.
Keep constantly working to improve your life to become independent
as much as possible in terms of food, water, energy and security.
Owning land and having the knowledge and skills to defend yourself
and be self-sufficient on the terms above is of paramount importance.
Civil disobedience is what they fear the most.
We are many, they are few.
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rolleikin said:
“I don’t think I have ever experienced anything like it. EVER. Saying they are sheep or stupid does not explain what I am seeing. It is some sort of mental breakdown, but limited to this. I am not sure how to describe or categorize what I am witnessing maybe others here can do a better job.”
I’m seeing this too and I’m beginning to think the vax itself is causing a cognitive decline in the vaccinated. It may be one (of many) reasons they want everyone vaxxed.
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virusmyth666 said:
The difference is the amount the fear they have been pumping via MSM this past 18 months. Unprecedented amount of fear mongering.
I’ve noticed that (exceptions aside) people from the left are more prone to be prey of this fear mongering strategy, since this kind of people tend to have their morals, ideology and worldview more based on emotions (empathy, fear, opression, victimization) and the common good (colectivism), while people from the right tend to have a moral framework more centered on liberty and individual rights.
Of course, this is an oversimplification, but can be used as a rough explanation.
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tony martin said:
There’s got to be someone that’s able to fake these vaccination passports.
I remember that there was this guy that could make you a fake license so you could get into a bar underage. Looked perfectly real, laminated and everything.
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Lewis reid said:
In Britain, there’s apparently the Covid1984 app that mimics the NHS Track and Trace.
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tony martin said:
This whole thing reminds me of the saying in the war movies by the Nazis.
“Let me see your papers please”
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Stephen said:
Apparently there are: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-man-arrested-for-selling-fake-covid-19-vaccine-cards/ar-BB1gqybd
but be careful.
I saw this yesterday:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-travelers-who-used-fake-vaccine-cards-to-enter-canada-from-us-fined-nearly-16000/ar-AAMTacg
Me, I could probably get away with forging a cert since I know the lady that works the door at the office and she’d probably say “looks good to me” and that would be that. For now.
I personally have decided that I have the luxury of not having to make this moral compromise. Matching fraud with fraud isn’t going to win any battles in the long run, though. I can totally understand how people in certain situations see no other choice. It’s not my place to judge.
If they state there’s going to be a vaccination database, you can bet there probably already is one. In fact I think Pfizer at least does have one so they can look up the number on the cert to match to a name.
“Let me see your papers please” yep we’re already there.
On the bright side many young adults are being attracted to classical and traditional things in music, art and other aspects of culture – “trad”. They correctly recognize the filth they are being flooded with and are rejecting it wholesale.
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tony martin said:
I’m not saying that you could use the fake ID to get on a airplane or to do something official with the government.
But you could show it to your crazy brainwashed relatives in order to go to a stupid birthday party….. or get in the grocery store if it actually comes to that.
I’m definitely getting one if it’s available ….. and when somebody asks me if I’m vaccinated I just tell them yes.
I think it’s what’s called a white lie.
The fact is this shit is getting crazier than I ever could imagine.
And to all the Little Goody Two Shoes out there that say you can’t ever ever lie … answer me this question.
I think you all know the classic question.
If Jews were hiding in your attic and Nazis were coming knocking on your door and asked you if you were hiding any Jews would you say yes because you don’t wanna lie?
This is actually “a war” my friends like like Sun Tzu said “deception is the art of war”.
Do what you have to do to survive.
Or maybe I will build that log cabin in the woods.
Think about it.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Tony Martin: Or you could just be brave. Clearly that’s up to you.
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tony martin said:
@Jared
So far I haven’t done anything … and I haven’t made any decisions at all,really just speaking out loud to you guys what I might do.
I’ll probably just move out of New York State to some other state that is more acceptable. There foreclosing on my house here and so I have to move anyway. Do you have a room for me?
I just don’t think that it’s not unreasonable to have one of those fake ID’s if you need it in an emergency situation. I’m hopefully wrong but I think the unvaccinated are gonna be hunted down like rats.
I don’t think you understand about New York State.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Tony Martin: No, I feel you my friend. I HEAR you. I have friends and familys-of that live in New York, and Upstate is a lot different than the big city, obviously. But I also live very near Seattle and it’s almost as bad here – not quite, yet, but the measures have been almost as draconian.
And I have ignored them all. Nothing ill has happened, so far. And if “they” want to hunt down the unvaccinated, it will NOT be “like rats” at all. It will be a very short, very unsuccessful, very painful hunt. It could be over in one night, if they want to actually go there. It’s not going to be an issue.
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rolleikin said:
The old motto “never tell a lie” is wrong. It should be “never tell a harmful lie.” People tell harmless lies all the time and there is nothing wrong with that. It can be wrong to NOT tell a harmless lie.
What is wrong with saying you’ve been vaccinated when you haven’t? Nothing at all. It is not a harmful lie and much more harm could result from saying otherwise.
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Graham said:
I think you’re talking weak willed, cowardly and deceptive crap.
Lying is the result of cowardice, a fear of facing the consequences of doing or saying the right thing.
Saying lying is harmless is the result of further cowardice, an inability to accept the yellow streak down your back.
Telling people otherwise is deception.
Deception on the part of others over centuries is what has got us where we are.
Who exactly is qualified to say what is “harmless”.
Every time you tell someone you are vaccinated, you are reinforcing the idea in their heads its a good thing, and you could be making it harder for me to take a stand against that individual. That is not harmless, it is very harmful to those resisting this shit, makes you no better than a masktard.
You might as well actually have the vaccine as you are very little use to the resistance, or maybe go back to dreaming about goats made of rocks in NASA’s back yard.
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Jared Magneson said:
Nailed it, Graham.
Promoting their agenda through deception is capitulation. Complacency is COMPLICITY, here. Fuck ’em.
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Josh said:
Guys I understand that Rollekein’s opinion about how to deal with vax mandated seems to have hit a nerve but before this exchange spirals further out of control I ask all of you to refrain from insults and accusations of spookiness. Take a deep breath and easy with the trigger finger. PLEASE.
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Graham said:
Agreed Josh, I don’t usually bite but Rolleikin hit a nerve on a day that coincided with some other personal shit I’ve had to deal with, and the top came off the volcano.
@Rolleikin, sorry if I was a bit harsh, we see things differently and I did enjoy the exchange. If either of us learnt anything its not a bad outcome.
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rolleikin said:
“I think you’re talking weak willed, cowardly and deceptive crap … etc, etc yada yada yada”
@ Graham
Very noble sentiments, Graham. I think it actually brought a tear to my eye. Oh, no, wait. It was just some dust on my keyboard.
But, regardless — you must be a real pillar of virtue. A real prince.
However, there’s just one problem with your advice, Graham: It makes it so much easier for the vax enforcers to find the unvaccinated people so they can then see to it that they get their shots.
But you already know that, don’t you Graham? That’s what you want, isn’t it? You want to help the vax enforcers under the guise of your great and noble virtue, right? Just like your bosses do?
If those who don’t want the vax resist outing themselves, it makes it pretty hard for the vaxers, doesn’t it? It would be so much easier for them if we cooperated and identified ourselves, right?
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Graham said:
wrong again.
These are not “noble sentiments”, they are how I live and slugs like you make it more difficult.
If you want to cry it helps to have a soul, find that first and then think about what you’ve said, that should help you cry.
You call me a, “real pillar of virtue. A real prince”
Actually I am just a captain. Of my own destiny. You can be too if you put your white flag in the bin.
And the problem with my advice: “it makes it so much easier for the vax enforcers to find the unvaccinated people so they can then see to it that they get their shots.”
Are you for real? Don’t they already have records of all those who’ve had the shot, and don’t they just need to subtract that from the list of all citizens to find out who is unvaccinated? How can I make it easier than that for them?.
And how are they going to see to it that those specifically with the balls to refuse and say so get their shots? Is someone going to come round with a gun and pin me to the floor?
I want to help the vax enforcers under the guise of my great and noble virtue?
You’re starting to sound like one of those retards that try to put Miles down at Ratwiki and the like.
I have no bosses, I am retired. One of the reasons I got out early is precisely becuase I will NOT tolerate or partake in any covid bullshit. There has been personal cost involved, and again its been easier for them to force my hand becuase of the mass of capitulalting cowards in this world.
“If those who don’t want the vax resist outing themselves, it makes it pretty hard for the vaxers, doesn’t it?”
No, as I have explained above.
“It would be so much easier for them if we cooperated and identified ourselves, right?”
No, as I have explained above.
I guess it would sound a bit tit for tat if I accused you of being spooky rolle, almost like I give a shit. But whether you know it or not you are working for them here.
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rolleikin said:
“Promoting their agenda through deception is capitulation. Complacency is COMPLICITY.”
@ Jared
This is gibberish. Deceptions don’t promote anything and can in no logical way be construed as capitulation or complicity to anything.
What YOU are promoting IS capitulation. You are advising the unvaccinated to inform the vaxxers that they haven’t had their shots so that the vaxxers can then see to it that they get them.
Giving the vaxxers the information they need is capitulation and complicity, the exact opposite of the charge you are making.
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rolleikin said:
Dear Graham,
Back in WWII did the members of the Resistance in France and elsewhere wear T-Shirts that said “Resistance Fighter” on them?
There is nothing “cowardly” about not giving away your position or announcing your allegiance in times of war and occupation (which is what is going on now in case you haven’t noticed).
I have only said that when one of their goons asks you if you have been vaccinated, you need not tell them the truth.
The rest of your misguided vitriol and accusations of me being a spook, are — well, simply needless and foolish hysterics.
But, if it makes you feel better to declare to the world what a great and courageous hero you are, then, go ahead and have your fun. It’s actually pretty funny. 🙂
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mantalo said:
the resistance was controlled opposition, dear … because it was out of the question that real resistance fighters jeopardize the plans of the bankers.
And now that I see the cowardice of humans, I don’t think there was a single real resistant in France … actors, yes, real ones, no.
De Gaulle said “the French are calves” and the calves were far too busy hiding under their beds or denouncing their neighbor to imagine for one second resisting the invader …
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Michael Deloatch said:
@ Mantalo –
Resistance was controlled op? Gives a whole new connotation to <<pièce de résistance>> for me, haha. A scripted play within the play…
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Deception. Creatures in the animal kingdom survive by deception. Predators deceive prey by hiding until the prey are close enough to make the odds of capture high. Prey deceive predators by faking a turn then going the opposite way. And on and on. Looks like Mother Nature has nothing against deception. The survivors are often those who learn deception the best (or those who are just lucky).
What about domesticated animals? Farmers deceive livestock by pretending that they will be taken care of all of their natural lives, but then they murder them.
Some of use are like domesticated animals and others are like wild prey animals. Aren’t we?
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das8777 said:
Deception is the point …
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Wayne said:
When the government, media, et al. are lying about almost everything, why should any individual feel compelled to tell the truth?
They are inquiring about having received a fake “vaccine” related to a fake pandemic.
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rolleikin said:
“There’s got to be someone that’s able to fake these vaccination passports.”
Frank Abagnale
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tony martin said:
This reminds me of the freaks and geeks show that l loved. Where the guy makes fake IDs’ for everybody.
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FiddleSticks said:
Yes Tony, you need to be brave, but hey….FUCK NEW YORK! It’s been a cesspool forever. Fuck New York, fuck Cuomo, and you’d be doing yourself a favor by leaving New York State and never looking back. In fact, take a big steaming shit on some government property on your way across the state line! The Midwest and the southern US are 10,000 times better to live, to work, and to deal with then New York. God, I can smell New York’s stench all the way here in Iowa! Whatever you decide, I wish you the best. (Fuck New York!)
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tony martin said:
The thing is … l was a stagehand on broadway. Now there’s no broadway seats or movie seats unless you get vaccinated.
I heard vermont was a good place to go to.
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Philip Cox said:
Fake papers might work here and there, but I wouldn’t rely on it as a long term solution.
A better strategy would be to leave cesspools like NYC behind. There’s plenty of room out here in the countryside and in small-town America. You’ll find more allies. Much more affordable to live out here too. Plenty of construction work out here and I’m sure somebody would take an experienced stagehand.
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Chris Ryska said:
@ tony martin, Then there’s no resistance. Because in the eyes of who you’re presenting the vaxx card to you’d be seen as going along with the program and even lending legitimacy to the hoax. No thanks, I’ll just take a stand and not go along with Babylon.
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tony martin said:
“Plenty of construction work out here and I’m sure somebody would take an experienced stagehand.”
You’re correct.
I’m not trying to brag but people and my wife call me macgyver. I really do have a way of fixing things even on stage.
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3rd doorman said:
Figure out how to get a harmless vac and a real vac card. We already have heard discussion of this done by private doctors for parents whose kids are gung ho on vaccination.
Macgyver was fiction, and known for giant plotholes, so I wouldn’t look to that for inspiration.
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Jared Magneson said:
I’m with Chris Ryska on this one. Fuck ’em. Take a stand. Get out of the shithole place you live in, if need be. Get mean, if that works. Backing down or succumbing in any way only makes their ordinance stronger. Fake papers? Fake person. Just break them BACK. It’s not that hard to do, all you need is willpower – as with most things.
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tony martin said:
@ 3rd
“Macgyver was fiction, and known for giant plotholes, so I wouldn’t look to that for inspiration.”
I never called myself that.
My wife and other people started to calling me that because I was able to fix things with things that just happened to be lying around me in the basement or whatever.
I know that MacGyver was just a TV show but a lot of things that he did they say where possible.
Like when he just put dish detergent down on the floor and the bad guys slipped on it with an explosion that he made with a pressure cooker filled with ammonia and something else, but I don’t remember exactly what it was.
Not everything in MacGyver is impossible.
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3rd doorman said:
@tony, um, didn’t say everything in Mcgyver is impossible, I said fiction known for plotholes. I didn’t say you are self labeled either. You are welcome to respond to what I said but I don’t want to talk about explosions since that also, is not something I referrenced.
Here is another scenario, set it up as a concerned relative, who sees a family member who is NOT able to take the vaccine for medical reasons, but is still gung ho on taking it. To get the psychological placebo effect, to end the discussion, to stop conflict, set up a special doctor visit where the vac can be administered in a “safer” setting, just in case. Only the doctor and you know that the safety is guaranteed by it being a saline shot.
If mcGyver gets the chemical amounts wrong, if the indicated concentrations are not actual concentrations, if there is a thin film of something like grease or carbon he fails to eliminate or account for, the timing is off, the plan fails. It could be catastrophic, and the end of the mcGyver franchise. Writers are not paid to illustrate such “reality”.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
What about getting fake muscles put on your arms and getting a shot in one of those? Could the shooters detect that they’re fake?
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Lio said:
The lack of body heat, veins and blood might tip them off
Even the spooks can’t get realistic-looking props for their fake murders and shootings
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Oh lookie – Biden’s speechwriters may read this site.
“We have to keep cutting through the Republican fog…”
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Patrick said:
Blasphemy!
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suntzufighting said:
Here we go again. According to the comments, people welcome the indoor mask mandates.
The first comment is from Virginia. Could it be Langley?
And mandate has now entered the lexicon. It is unquestioningly accepted as law. If there is no pushback the outcome is unfortunately deserved.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58014719
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Greg said:
As of this week most all Corporations in my state are requiring employees, including vaccinated ones, to wear the mask. Customers however are NOT required to wear a mask. Very Odd.
An employee at Target, Walmart, Kroger, Lowes, Home Depot, etc can punch out, take off their mask, and then do some shopping mask less as a customer in the same department they worked in just minutes before.
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rolleikin said:
If the return to masks doesn’t reduce the covid numbers, won’t that at least prove that masks are useless?
Of course, I realize that logic doesn’t matter anymore.
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Benjamin said:
Yes, unfortunately straightforward logic doesn’t work on people. Recently I told someone how the flu numbers reported by CDC had dropped off a cliff over the last year, and were simply replaced by covid.
Their response: That’s because of the masks and lockdowns, less people are getting sick.
My response: So then why didn’t the masks and lockdowns also drop the covid numbers?
Their response: crickets
But did they come around to seeing my point of view? Oh no. I was the deluded one.
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Michael Deloatch said:
I would venture an analysis. It’s the phones and smart tv’s. Full spectrum dominance. They have been running a panopticon and have collected in real-time feedback on how various electronic messages alter behaviors in large numbers of people, and have weaponized same. They gamed things out and realized the time to strike was at hand.
People have walked around for a decade or more now fully mesmerized and entrained by handheld devices. Of course there was also lifelong inculcation of respect for authority figures.
Yesterday I was contemplating the way to saving our civilization is for people to recognize the trance they are in and smash the damned phones with the nearest rock or hammer they can lay hands on. Of course, that is not going to happen.
Sad to think the achieivements of great minds like Samuel B Morse, Alexander Graham Bell, Tom Edison, Marconi and Philo Farnsworth were all embryonic steps to totalitarianism 21st century-style.
Tempering the remnant by fire? If we can survive the zombie world, ultimately what can’t we do?
There are voices out there suggesting some cataclysmic event is at hand and they are culling as a sort of euthanasia. Maybe enstupidation first is deemed another act of “mercy” — so that people don’t even recognize their being led to slaughter like lambs.
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rolleikin said:
In my youth, I studied hypnotism and became fairly skilled in hypnotizing certain people who were susceptible to such. Long story short — one thing I learned is that a command given in a hypnotic state always trumps logic in a person’s mind. You can have people do or say the most ridiculous things and then ask them why they did or said it and, without hesitation, they would invent an explanation that they believed was perfectly rational.
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Michael Deloatch said:
@ Rolleikin “trumps logic”
I saw what you did there LOL. Matter of fact, are you hypnotizing us right now via the screen with trigger words haha… ?
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Michael Deloatch said:
@ Rolleikin
Also your opening prepositional phrase made me think of the following classic English poetry. We are certainly in wonderland aren’t we, and Father William isn’t the only one missing a brain these days. (Not relevant to you personally, dear Rolleikin!)
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rolleikin said:
“are you hypnotizing us right now…?”
Well, the next time you are called upon to speak in front of a group and you begin clucking like a chicken, you will know why. 🙂
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Jared Magneson said:
That’s the stink of it – the numbers were ALL fictional so they never mattered anyway. Just like in the fake elections. Their tests were all false positives, every case is fake, and every negative is ignored.
@Benjamin: It doesn’t matter if they “come around”. It literally doesn’t matter at all.
All that matters is that YOU don’t waver. That we here do not. We are not alone, not by a long shot – and it wouldn’t matter if we were alone, either. But we aren’t. It doesn’t matter who breaks – only who does NOT.
So keep your chin up and do your OWN thing, and give not an inch. Fuck ’em.
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Wayne said:
The numbers are fake, and have been faked from the beginning.
Remember that the now shunned PCR test was never a legitimate medical diagnostic tool.
They didn’t weaponize some thing, or release some thing from a lab. They just told everyone that the seasonal flu was Covid and that was that. Mass gas lighting was the result.
Nothing new, just more lies on top of all of their lies. They are unable to speak truth, they create complicated lies, when a simple truth would be easier and have less consequence.
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Patrick said:
@suntzufighting re “The first comment is from Virginia. Could it be Langley?”
Ha! She lists her age as 44 and she looks 18. According to Instant Checkmate she’s lived in 13 places with a magic 8 in VA.
Fairfax, VA
Vienna, VA
Williamstown, NJ
Sicklerville, NJ
Silver Spring, MD
Richmond, VA
Dulles, VA
Mclean, VA
Herndon, VA
Reston, VA
Arlington, VA
Rockville, MD
Gray, ME
She’s also known as Keirsten A. Greggs, A Greggs, Keirstein A. Greggs, Kiersten Greggs, Keirsten Alea, and Keirsten Gregg. I personally like the Stein touch in the third one.
Lotta names, lotta places. Don’t think it’s your ordinary gal.
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suntzufighting said:
Here is a low level op for which I can’t really see a reason. It cocerns a Panther tank found in some German pensioner’s basement. This saga has been fouling up my google newsfeed for nearly two years.
He was fined a quarter million Euros, suspended sentence of 14 months, but the real howler: he has to sell the tank, of which he is in illegal posession!
Is it just pathetic journalism, or is this intended to keep the Nazi memory alive?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58077039
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rolleikin said:
I’d say it is to foment the idea that gun collectors are crazy and dangerous.
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Michael Deloatch said:
I’d say it’s embarrassing to the nazis of 2021 to have tangible relics on display of their defeat 80 years ago, however scripted it was…
I guess this means my cousin Klaus in Karst had better turn in those pallets of V1 rockets in his garden shed.
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Lewis reid said:
@Is it just pathetic journalism, or is this intended to keep the Nazi memory alive?
Probably both, but the latter option maybe more so. It wasn’t so lang ago they were always finding an ex-Concentration Camp guard and putting him/her on trial every five years or so.
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Michael Deloatch said:
Uh oh – gun play and knifing going down today near the US Pentagon.
I deplore violence. Matter of fact, why not shut down the Pentagon permanently and beat the swords into plowshares?
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Michael Deloatch said:
Oh I know why – can answer my own rhetorical question. Plowshares would only lead to more agriculture which would lead to more food which would lead to more people. Not in the strategic plan.
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FiddleSticks said:
They must be rehearsing for another fake riot. “Crises actors wanted. Must be between 20 – 35 yrs old / must be very gullible, own at least two “I LOVE TRUMP” t-shirts and work for $12.00 an hour. Sign up at your local DHS.”
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suntzufighting said:
That shooting at the Pentagon hasn’t been spun up, so it might be a legitimate event. No arrest yet of a crazed anti-vaxx white supremacist toxic mysogynist meat-eating cisgender climate change denier. But I am sure Dr Goebbels and team are on it.
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Michael Deloatch said:
In other happy news
https://www.reuters.com/business/meatpacker-tyson-foods-mandates-vaccines-workers-2021-08-03/
Microsoft will require vax for all us workers. Well, if they kill off the entire brand by attrition and/or iatrogenic annihilation via needle, no great loss to mankind or computers.
Chicken shortages nationwide will soon take wing I would guess.
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Graham said:
I think the great chicken plot was hatched some time ago Michael…
No need for us to get our feathers ruffled though.
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Stephen said:
A French blog analyzing cumulative (starting from 6 months ago?) vaccine injury results in France from ANSM (National Security Agency of Medicines and Health Products?) : http://www.autochtonisme.com/2021/08/injections-mortelles-les-chiffres-epouvantables-de-l-ansm.html
Somewhat analogous to VAERS, I guess.
Pfizer – 761 deaths + thousands of injuries
Astrazeneca – 170 deaths + over 1000 injuries
Moderna – 44 deaths + hundreds of injuries
975 deaths total in the last 6 months!
I suspect we can assume the real numbers are much more by an order of magnitude.
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Phil C said:
New paper: http://mileswmathis.com/desantis.pdf
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Maria said:
From the paper “The overt tyranny will appear to end when DeSantis or whoever rides in to save the day and the country returns to a Trump or Bush level of normalcy. As usual, they are moving you right mainly by tricks. They make the left so unappealing you want to be as far as possible away from those people there”
Florida governor Ron DeSantis “I Am Standing In Your Way’ From Taking People’s Freedoms“. I guess DeSantis has been assigned the presidency in 2025.
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Jared Magneson said:
“Civil disobedience is what they fear the most.
“We are many, they are few.”
No. Civil disobedience is NOT what they fear, at all. It’s not fearful. It’s not relevant. It doesn’t DO anything. It doesn’t solve anything. It doesn’t change anything.
That’s not what will solve these things. That’s not how you FIX things. You don’t look at a broken piece of furniture and just protest it – you FIX it. You replace the broken parts. You don’t fix a broken-down car by protesting it. You figure out what’s wrong with it, replace the parts, and discard the broken parts – or recycle them.
Passivity has led us precisely TO this point in history. Since nobody stands up, everyone falls. I know the author here meant well but it’s just not true. Civil disobedience has taught the Tyrants that no matter what they do, NOBODY will hold them to account, take them to task. They are not accountable because nobody will take them to account.
They are immune to our disobedience.
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Maria said:
I am wondering, what is the best way of opposing our self-provlaimed rulers? One would think that this little blog was of no consequence to these people, but we see them repeatedly trying to disrupt our conversation. So they must think that it poses some kind of threat to them. In one way, it seems that protesting and civil disobedience does not work, but then one sees these people trying to coopt, infiltrate and disrupt all kinds of protests, even our little discussion forum. To me, it seems that they want us to think that it doesn’t work, but their actions tell us they must see these things as threats.
One human life time is very short, but I am wondering if one saw the developments taking place now in a more compressed time format, would one see that the selective pressures they are applying now create an opposition they cannot deal with? I don’t know and am not convinced of this, but I see the signs. Like-minded people will get to gether and they will have children and these children will be much smarter and healthier than the others. These people will inherit the earth in the long run. I think it’s a question of applying a too strong selective pressure that destroys the weak and strenghtens the strong. They probably think they can coopt the opposition to the made-up madness of the left by taking us hard right, but will it work?
As a related example. What would Miles life had been like had they not destroyed art? Would he have discovered all their shenanigans and written all those papers if he was kept too busy painting? As Miles hinted to in his latest paper, they should have lulled everyone into a 50-70s type of existence. What they are doing now and have been doing for a while is counterproductive. Clearly, these people are not intelligent enough to understand their own good. The best approach isn’t damage control like they are doing with Miles, no it’s prevention. It’s keeping intelligent people busy and content, so content and busy they find no reason to look into the theft and fraud going on. In my view, the trick would be to tailor for these intellligent people so that if they are not busy painting or doing whatever it is that they like to do, they are invited to an endless string of tea and garden parties. It would be a good idea to buy their art and commission more, just to keep them busy. Have them paint the entire extended family and then the pets. If the rest of us were more entertained other places, we would have less time for hanging out here at this blog. I can only speak for me, but I am terribly bored. The idiots have shut the entire world down and there is nothing entertaining to do anywhere. If they hadn’t shut the world down, I would be busy travelling, walking in beautiful gardens, exploring museums, visiting friends etc. I wouldn’t have time to read the news or hang out here. I would prefer being stretched out on the grass among the roses and water lillies looking into the sky and sipping elderflower lemonade rather than do anything constructive. Now, in this bored and constrained position, I might become pissed off enough and have time enough to write about some hoax.
In this perspective, banning unvaccinated people from doing anything is the dumbest idea possible as these are the people you want to keep busy and entertained. You also don’t want these people to identify each other and form groups. You would want to spread these people in a sea of ignorant people to dilute their effects.
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R T said:
I don’t know Maria, but I know the answer lies in Miles. We have to support him no matter what, and get his message to everyone with eyes to read and ears to listen.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Quit acting like Miles is a savior. That’s like cults. They have gurus who the members think can do no wrong. It’s childish to think like that.
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Patrick said:
@LLoyd Kinder:
R T didn’t say that Miles is a savior, so I don’t know how he could be said to be “acting like” that. Mr. Mathis encourages people to learn to think for themselves and see through the deceptions and lies that surround us. Suggesting that trying to persuade others to read him is “like cults” is, sorry, like weird.
The first two definitions of “cult” relate to religious doings. The third reads “a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.” Well, I admire Miles for the outstanding work that he does, and I don’t think my admiration is misplaced at all. The fourth definition is “a person or thing that is popular or fashionable, especially among a particular section of society” with the synonyms listed as craze, fashion, fad, vogue and thing. That definition misses too, as a fad is defined as “an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived and without basis in the object’s qualities; a craze.”
Now, about the childish thing…
https://www.bing.com/search?q=cult&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS
https://www.bing.com/search?q=fad&form=PRHPR1&src=IE11TR&pc=EUPP_HRTS
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virusmyth666 said:
You dont seem to have a clear grasp on what civil disobedience is
by equating or comparing it with terms such as “protest” and “passivity”.
It is not just a protest as in a street demonstration.
That is indeed fruitless IMO, and not what civil disobedience is.
Also, it is far from being an example passivity. On the contrary, it is action.
Civil disobedience is our birth right. The right to disobbey and break any law
or mandate that one perceives as injust, and facing the consequences for it.
It also needs a critical mass to produce any palpable effect on the society, like
any other movement that is bottom-up in nature.
Even if undertaken by one single individual, it still has the effect of
producing the peace of mind and the reassurance that one is
living according to his or her own principles and fighting for what is right.
Once we start believing it has no purpose or value, we lose at least two
of the most powerful weapons we have at our disposal: the will to act,
and our collective strength.
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Jared Magneson said:
Clearly I was addressing your previous commentary, VirusMyth. But I think you’ve got me twisted, as I have the same grasp on this topic as anyone else who’s studied it. It’s not the DISOBEDIENCE part I take issue with. That is required in any opposition here, really. Otherwise it’s not opposition, it’s promotion.
So take my opinion as uncivil, basically. Civility hasn’t done the job thus far. It HAS kept us relatively safe, but then again are we safe at all now? For how long?
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virusmyth666 said:
Just to make it clearer for everyone else, the word “civil” here
has at least 2 meanings in the dictionary.
One means “peaceful” or “polite”, which seems
to be the definition you are going for, unless you’re making
a pun, which is fine.
The other meaning for the word “civil” is
“anything related to the common citizen”, an this is
definition implied in “civil disobedience”.
In other words, it is just disobedience practice by the common citizen.
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Jared Magneson said:
Fair enough, VirusMyth. That makes sense to me! I’ve read all the literature on the topic of course, just always took the “civil” as meaning both, when it doesn’t really have to. I think it’s because most of the examples (Thoreau, etc.) were actually rather polite, relative to my own self, that I just kinda took that as implied?
Thank you for taking the time, and the rebuttal.
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Patrick said:
I hope we can all practice our civil disobedience with civility.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Has societal change ever happened from the bottom up? Isn’t this what Miles has revealed, that what we’ve been taught was “revolutionary” was scripted fake history? Maybe the vast majority of people have always been weak, easily-manipulated cowards.
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Stephen said:
Bravo! 100% agree
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Stephen said:
@Jared I don’t totally agree with what you’re saying but I don’t think CD is a panacea
It IS a core tool in our defense especially in these early stages. I am not a pacifist, however and at some point it seems we will have to defend ourselves.
Having the moral high ground to me is of crucial importance.
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Jared Magneson said:
I should really hope that nobody totally agrees with me, as that would surely make for the most boring conversations. 🙂
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tony martin said:
That reminds me of NYC’s Mayor Koch’s radio show back in the 90s that he used to have.
He used to say on the air that …”lf you agree with me 100% of the time then there’s something wrong with you.”
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Gijs said:
‘Civil’ as in civil disobedience is just a technical term, meaning ‘not militairy’
At least that’s what I always thought, I never had the association with Thoreau being a civilized, polite guy.
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Jared Magneson said:
Thus, the breaking of all and any laws would be an act of “Civil Disobedience”, by this definition. Murder is just Civil Disobedience, it turns out now. Who knew? Rape, armed robbery, riots, arson, mass murder – every act of disobedience committed by a non-enlisted person is actually what Thoreau meant, now that we have revised his definitions and trashed his morality. What fun!
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archer-d said:
If you say sorry afterwards it is fine 😉
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Gijs said:
Ok, a definition should probably include ‘non-violent’.
I was merely saying how I read ‘civil’ = like a private citizen, as opposed to someone working for the government. BTW this got me wondering: how totally up-side-down it is that in the English language a soldier is called a ‘private’.
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David Hagersten said:
I don’t know if someone else has brought up the similarity between the introduction of the smallpox vaccine and the present times. Smallpox vaccines were introduced during the solar minimum called the Dalton minimum which happened around the beginning of the 1800s. The present covid vaccination has also happened close to the recent solar minimum period which was worst during 2018-2020.
I think the wicked leaders of the worlds are just repeating their ancestors history when the smallpox vaccination happened around Europe. The wicked leaders have minimal amounts of independent thought and the wicked leaders just seems to be slaves to their own ancestors history. Trying to drag everyone else down unto their own miserable level.
The mandatory smallpox vaccination seems connect to this Napoleonic France with a man called:
Antoine-Augustin Parmentier (1737-1813) who was also the main promoter of the potato in France and he is said to have pioneered things in nutritional chemistry.
“His many other contributions to nutrition and health included establishing the first mandatory smallpox vaccination campaign (under Napoleon beginning in 1805, when he was Inspector-General of the Health Service) and pioneering the extraction of sugar from sugar beets.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine-Augustin_Parmentier
Searching for Antoine-Augustin Parmentier and smallpox I found this pro-vaccine article about vaccination against smallpox and how it seems very similar to our present time with the covid scare. Smallpox was the first case of a mandatory vaccine after the discovery of vaccines by Edward Jenner:
“While smallpox caused 5.4% of deaths in the 18th century, and 4.8% during the Revolution, it accounted for only 1.8% of deaths at the end of the Empire. The number of cases had fallen by 75% since 1789. This was the greatest success of the Napoleonic “public health” policy (an anachronistic, but easy-to-understand term). Once the risks of “arm to arm” vaccination had been eliminated, mass vaccination became the norm in France and throughout the world.”
https://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/articles/talking-point-with-thierry-lentz-vaccination-when-napoleon-declared-war-on-smallpox/
Here is another quote from another source about the smallpox vaccination during the 1800s in the Napoleonic Kingdom of Italy of how they forced non-mandatory vaccination onto the poor through using their carrot-and-stick tactic. These assholes really do like kicking on people that are already lying down:
“Significantly, the poor received free vaccination. The edict established no obligatory vaccination but spelled out that children without vaccination were not admitted to elementary school, while poor families with unvaccinated members were blocked from getting welfare.”
https://www.cairn.info/revue-napoleonica-la-revue-2017-3-page-38.htm
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mantalo said:
how is it that we find France regularly at the origin of “bad moves”?
France, land of freedoms, and Paris, city of light …
in fact, it’s quite the opposite … france is the land of a working dictatorship and Paris is just a huge stinky cow dung …
if on September 15, I am not vaccinated, my employer refuses that I go to work and does not pay me any more wages.
we are threatened by our employer … how is this possible?
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mswinkle said:
It is unbelievable that this is what is happening. Threatening people’s livelihoods if they don’t get the jab. What are you going to do?
I love the suggestions to just pack up and leave NYC. Sure it is possible but at significant cost. Leaving family and friends and all the emotional upheaval it will cause . Taking a huge financial hit and heading out to where, alone. Sure, it can be done but to think one can do it without it causing massive upheaval and external and internal conflicts is not to grasp how life changing this is.
Frankly, if they get away with this in NYC it will be implemented in multiple other blue states and even some red. It will not stop at NY
@Jared. How do we go about fixing it? How do we hold them to account?
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Greg from Mass said:
Call their bluff. Currently, I’m secure with my job, but I don’t think that will last. When I’m confronted, I’ll let whoever know my choices and if that person wants to attempt to extend this invisible authority that’s fine. Our time here is limited and I try to enjoy this existence. That’s mostly what this is about, planting seeds of fear that can flourish for decades. It works on me sometimes. I don’t have it all figured out.
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Graham said:
Greg, it sounds like you actually have figured it out without realising it:
“That’s mostly what this is about, planting seeds of fear”
I believe this is the central objective of all their schemes where its not just about manufacturing consent for some war or treasury raid or additional tyranny.
I have come to realise that within almost every situation one encounters that buried in there somewhere is what I call an “Invitation to experience fear”. I have no way of knowing but it feels sometimes like there is an entity somewhere that is pushing all this and actually feeds off that fear.
I have also found that if I consciously reject that “invitation”, that the invitations get less and less frequent over time, and I become stronger and more functional.
Maybe its just a mental construct I’ve developed to insulate myelf, or maybe there is something in it, but I do feel that whatever the entity is that feeds on fear, that I starve it and so it leaves me alone.
I recall bulies from my working days, and after a while I realised that they are just predators looking for the weakest targets. If you resist them there are no terrible consequences, they just move on to look for weaker targets, they are just bottom feeders. Same sort of thing possibly with fear.
Apologies if this all sounds like wuwu, its working for me though. Simply recognise the invitations to fear that are everywhere all the time and consciously reject the invitation.
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Jared Magneson said:
I think everyone knows the answer here, but it’s just not something we can openly discuss, for multiple reasons.
“There is but one path…”
Spartacus
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rolleikin said:
If you’re considering the Sparticus route, be sure to rent the movie first and watch the final scene. That will be you.
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Jared Magneson said:
If you’re considering reading Rolleikin’s infantile responses, also consider that he hasn’t even seen the show I was referencing, didn’t get the quote, and is an abject coward. The oily salesman just tried to sell us on lies being okay, earlier, and here he is popping off about a show he clearly hasn’t even seen.
No, Rolleikin, that would be YOU, because cowardice doesn’t win fights. You go ahead and tell everyone you’re vaxxed and wear your snot-diaper and “fit in”, son. We don’t need you anyway. Never did. 🙂
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rolleikin said:
@ jared magneson
I said “movie” Jared, not “show.”
It’s a famous 1960 film starring Kirk Douglas in the title role and Laurence Olivier and directed by Stanley Kubrick and it won 6 academy awards.
Would you care to explain the logic that brought you to the conclusion that I am a coward?
Is it because I advocated NOT helping the vax enforcers by outing oneself as unvaccinated?
If anyone should be referred to as “spooky” it would be someone who advocates helping those creeps.
Do you call the resistance fighters of WWII cowards too? Because they didn’t go around telling people they were resistance fighters?
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rolleikin said:
For the record, I posted a reply to Jared’s uncalled-for insults and it now awaits moderation.
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rolleikin said:
“We don’t need you anyway. Never did. “
@ Jared Magneson
Really, Jared?
I’ve received dozens of emails that say “Jared Magneson liked your comment on Cutting Through the Fog”
And, now I’ve broken your heart. Oh, you poor thing!
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Jared Magneson said:
And these are among the multiple reasons we can’t actually just talk about solutions. Nobody really wants to SOLVE these problems, because it costs too much. It could cost everything. It could RUIN everything.
But I think the path the Tyrants are taking is not a “could ruin” path, it’s one of outright ruin already. They ruin the Earth, they ruin everyone serving them, and they ruin themselves too. I think their path is a guarantee of ruin, so thwarting that path should be of paramount importance.
Except people are afraid to take those risks. I myself am as well, just far less than most. I have good reason to LIVE. But we all have a breaking point, so I guess we can look at this more as a measure of resilience than cowardice? How far CAN we bend, before we must break, or must break them?
Everyone will have a different answer. But it doesn’t surprise me that some people refuse to even examine that answer.
Rolleikin is referring to of course the end of the Spartacus movie, where the “hero” is killed by the Romans. So is that the only path that rebellion can lead? In the story I was quoting, it’s actually far worse than that shitty movie was. But the ending is also very hopeful and beautiful too, not just torture-porn like much of today’s cinema. There’s a POINT to it. And the point was never about the hero living or dying, it was about breaking the Tyrants and showing or proving it could be done at all. Showing that one person COULD stand up and fight.
I don’t find that farfetched at all, and many of us here are doing just that.
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Vexman said:
Come on, Jared and Rolle. Some heavy words are being exchanged, which you won’t be able to take back. Is it worth it? Does it make you feel better? There’s no good ending to this story, that’s for sure. So if I may…
Will you two just take it somewhere else?
It’s actually heartbreaking to see regulars infighting…and this time over a point made in a TV series? Seriously?
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Patrick said:
Ditto Vexman.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
It’s the same group of elite scumbags running France who run every other country in the world. – quelle-surprise!
Your only saviour could be Madame Guillotine.
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mswinkle said:
@Jared this is your solution ? Spartacus Given everything Miles has revealed that is also probably fake.
I am not sure it is the vaccines that are causing people to behave completely irrational and against their own self interest. My family and friends went down this path before vaccines.
I think the problem is much deeper and this Covid madness is just emphasizing it. They never start with taking everything just bits and bobs, and those things don’t seem worth fighting about to most people. To those it does well the price is very high which only reinforces for majority it is not worth it.
Anyway, while all of us here might have a deeper understanding than most as to what is going on we seem to have little insight into solutions, aside from Spartacus and pack up and leave.
these lunatics will not stop and across multiple countries and states within countries they are testing all levels of control. if they get away with it, it might be Israel or NY today but it will be eventually reach you.
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Jared Magneson said:
Well, much like our spooky pal Rolleikin, it would appear you haven’t seen the show I was referencing. It’s a fictional tale about a slave uprising, and a very heart-warming story of rebellion, lost love, revenge, and revolution. Since you haven’t seen it, your comments make sense but have blatantly missed the point. No, I’m not talking about the shitty movie with Kirk Douglas or whatever.
I understand that most won’t like that answer at all, and we aren’t allowed to talk about it freely. So we don’t. I know it’s scary. I know it’s brutal, harsh, and the complete opposite of what anyone wants to hear.
But since nobody else will say it or talk about it, of course I will. That’s who I am. And I’m not afraid of any of that shit. I’ve said it before, another way, from another source – Dune. But it’s a common theme in almost all great stories of oppression, so I don’t know why it would seem so shocking or abhorrent.
You have it basically boiled down to “Fight or Flight”, correct?
Tell us another way.
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Jared Magneson said:
Out of curiosity, when did Miles ever review “Spartacus: Blood and Sand”? I don’t believe he ever did.
In the show which you never watched, the main character is NAMED “Spartacus” as a joke, as a jab, as a taunt. After they steal, rape, and murder his wife. There’s nothing spooky about the show and it’s a work of art. So I’m sorry you didn’t like the answer and didn’t watch the show and now you’re mad about stuff, but that’s precisely WHY things haven’t changed and won’t change, right now. Because nobody is actually going to stand up. Because they’re too afraid. Because they have too much to lose.
Because they are COMFORTABLE.
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tony martin said:
I got a word from a doctor that I really trust in New York City that there are thousands of lawsuits pending about all this bullshit.
I guess we’ll see.
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rolleikin said:
@ jared magneson
“Well, much like our spooky pal Rolleikin…”
Take it back, Jared.
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Patrick said:
Incoming! Unpleasant flashbacks from third grade.
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Stephen said:
@Mantalo : “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVH6BVNIsI8” ?
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Lewis reid said:
Well, Macron is a horse’s ass…
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MathisderMaler said:
This would seem to confirm the idea that the vaccines contain some dumbing down or compliance drug like fluoride, that makes the masses easier to control or suggestible. I wonder why all the vaccines I took as a child didn’t have that effect on me. It would seem some of us have developed immunity to the drugs, which is why they are changing them now. It is like with cockroaches, they have to keep changing the poisons.
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Jared Magneson said:
I’ve noticed a few subtle changes in my vaxxed friends and family, and it really seems that they are even less intelligent than before. Just a deduction, just anecdotal, but they are even more compliant, complacent, and zoned-out than ever before and also more willing to imbibe or inject anything now that the Tyrants tell them to. My mother has resumed a life on painkillers, after the side effects of her jabs. One of my best friends has become physically debilitated and has to walk with a cane now, at only 45. I am also 45 and in the best shape of my life, so the contrast is stark. Even my own brother who lives with me has developed a constant cough, which sounds different than his previous coughing to my ears.
It’s just sickening.
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Ultimate Truther said:
Miles – when you were a child you didn’t receive very many shots compared to children born today, or even 20 years ago. I think it’s difficult to say precisely how vaccines taken years or decades go affect us or if we hadn’t taken them whether we would be sharper today, especially if we didn’t experience any significant side effects afterwards.
I believe ultimately yes – even subtle things like noticing you are having minor trouble finding the right words to describe something at the right moment even if it happens only occasionally, that could perhaps be a result of some brain neurons being destroyed by a vaccine administered years and years ago. Especially those containing mercury (thimerosal) or any aluminum adjuvanted shot would be highly suspect.
The formulations vaccines used 50-60 years ago were quite different to the ones used today.
Any of the many chemicals in a vaccine can have a “dumbing down” effect. Especially when you consider that these toxins are injected, rather than ingested. Sometimes these effects come on very gradually to the point you can’t correlate them with a vaccine taken years ago.
There are a lot of factors involved. I think of a vaccine as simply a bunch of chemicals injected into the body. As simple as that. Once you start looking at them this way, you can see what’s going on.
Jared – you’re absolutely right. That’s what is happening to the people taking these vaccines. The ones remaining unvaxxed (us) can easily tell.
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MathisderMaler said:
I still got a lot of vaccines and boosters. They snuck them into our arms in grade school, when our parents weren’t watching, same as now. I remember getting boosters when my parents weren’t present. I think they did cause some physical problems, like allergies, asthma, nearsightedness, etc. But fortunately they didn’t have much effect on my brain, which seems pretty rare. I grew up with heavy fluoride as well, which affected my teeth, but not my brain. I have minor fluorosis, which was worse when I was younger. Or, possibly I was meant to be much smarter. Probably, we all were. A sad thought. Another measure of what they have taken from us.
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tony martin said:
My son was a smart little kid in the 90s … but then after he got the shots his IQ went down and he became dyslexic which is not as bad as autism, which vaccines have been known to cause.
But I think he’s healed himself with alternative medicine.
He loves judo and he almost got his black belt.
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Jared Magneson said:
It’s really quite obscene. My own younger brother, who I’ve spoken of before and wgi used to be able to do orbital dynamics in his head practically, has become so inept since his double-Jabs that last night he lashed out at me about “positron-electron annihilation”. I mentioned that nothing is annihilated, of course per Miles’ papers on the topic, and he flipped his lid. Went straight to Wiki, where they say “the particles are annihilated and a photon and neutron are created” (my paraphrase there). And of course I asked him how this was ANNIHILATION at all. Since nothing was destroyed or erased from existence, nothing WAS annihilated. He flipped out and said, “You don’t know that!” and became very upset and went to look up the definition of “annihilate” and I sat there dumbfounded for a moment. I thought that was the PREMISE.
I’m sorry about writing that so poorly but it’s still kind of rocking my mind, here. The claim of two things destroying each other, followed immediately by a complete dissolution of all logic and reason . I of course told him what was actually happening when two spinning particles collide, and he lost his shit even further. “Oh, you know more now than the leading physicists in Japan?” and so forth…
It’s just really hard to watch someone who I perceived once as very intelligent, possibly even an equal, retreat further and further into idiocy. And it’s become MUCH more acute since his jabs back in May. The poor kid effectively blew his own brains out in the past year and a half and it’s not only tragic, it’s fucking CRIMINAL. So part of my anger shifts from him to the Tyrants, yet again, for even creating the scenario where the weak-minded and feeble of will COULD be used and buckle under the pressure of their fictional fears. They are more culpable than him, even though he is also complicit for allowing it and promoting it. It’s sickening.
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Ultimate Truther said:
Miles – indeed. Thanks for sharing your story. I received the usual shots when I was younger but probably fewer than the average child, since I spent time growing up in different parts of the world, where fewer shots were (and still are today) administered when compared with the US.
Later on, I did get a couple of travel vaccines, but only once. They caused persistent ear infections in one ear. I only realized the connection years later. A tetanus shot I received 6 years ago (the only shot of any kind I’ve received over the past 13 years) really screwed me up and awakened me to the reality of vaccines. That shot, a Td (tetanus-diphtheria) booster caused my left arm to be semi-paralyzed for about a year.
It felt like whenever I was driving my car as if I was lifting 100 pounds. After taking various heavy metal detox supplements including a zeolite and a chlorella growth factor supplement, as well as generally consuming a healthy diet, I feel a lot better. However, I still have occasional pins and needles (though diminishing in frequency) in my arm as well a slight sensation radiating from the site of the injection down my arm to the palm of my hand. Prior to starting this regimen, pins and needles in my arm would wake me up from a deep sleep for around 3-4 years since getting the shot. This would happen every 3rd or 4th night for years. I would barely be able to lift my arm or have any sensation in it for quite a while afterwards.
@tony martin – good to hear that. Was this before you understood the risks of vaccination? Or was there a difference of opinion between yourself and your wife? I know this is too often a reality in many families. Fortunately, my wife and I are on the same page.
My own parents are unfortunately brainwashed to the core. They got their Pfizer shots (they live in France).
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tony martin said:
@Ultimate
Ironically my story is kind of complicated.
I was in a church that didn’t believe in vaccinations. But once I left that church I thought that not vaccinating might be bible ignorance or medieval superstition of doctors.
This is what they used to teach us about doctors in that particular church (and they might not have been that wrong)
We used to use these scriptures to justify ourselves by not going to the doctor.
I don’t believe that now. I think sometimes you have to go to the doctor.
But anyway … here are the scriptures that they used to use.
“For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26
“He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you.”
Exodus 23:25
So when I left, I decided to let the doctors do what they do with tragic consequence.
They vaccinate these little babies and my baby cried for so long after that and I didn’t realize what it was but now I do. And then the booster shot really fucked him up.
But hey what are you gonna do? You have to trust the doctor…right?
So once I did my research on how fucked up the vaccines were, I took my second son out of school when they wanted to give him a shot and got a lawyer to write a letter to the school board for a religious exemption and they had to accept it and they did and he went back to school with no vaccination.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Vax Dum-Dums. I have 6 siblings. I guess my youngest sibling-sister probably got the Covid shot/s, since her youngest daughter just told me that she got them herself. I don’t know if any of the others did. Most of us siblings seem to be aware of a likely sinister purpose for the shots, so I think the others probably haven’t gotten any. But some of their kids have gotten the shots, so I’ll ask my siblings if it seems to have affected their intelligence badly.
Premeditation. It amazes me that so many people have been so compliant. Someone above mentioned that most people used to distrust the media and the politicians, so they opined that those people were dishonest, but it seems to me that what has persuaded people that the Covid crisis is real is the fact that all of the doctors and scientists, all of the internet sites, and all of the governments around the globe agree that there is a Covid crisis/pandemic killing lots of people, caused by a natural Covid virus, and that Covid shots cure the disease. So the conspirators apparently figured out that that’s what was needed and they succeeded in putting it all together and got compliance despite people’s distrust under normal circumstances. They probably used focus groups to figure it out.
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rolleikin said:
The only vaccine I recall getting was the oral polio vaccine on a sugar cube back in the 1950s. Other than that I never heard of any students being vaccinated from there on out.
I do recall seeing these round marks on some peoples’ shoulders with multiple holes inside (for small pox?) but they weren’t done in schools as far as I know. Or, maybe I was absent that day. 🙂
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tony martin said:
“I do recall seeing these round marks on some peoples’ shoulders with multiple holes inside (for small pox?) but they weren’t done in schools as far as I know. Or, maybe I was absent that day.”
I can’t be 100% sure but I remember getting a vaccine under the steps in my school. I guess it was perfectly normal in the 60s not to get approval from their parents. And I don’t even know what it was for. I was like whatever … they must know what they’re doing they are the professionals.
And then we were told to hide under the desk in a nuclear war or something like that. It was like … put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye..that’s what I was thinking. Like dunking your head under a school desk is gonna help you. Good luck with that.
We always probably lived in crazy times, even in the past …but these are the craziest times that I have ever seen in my lifetime … and I’m no young wet behind the ears whippersnapper by the way.
https://www.cfr.org/timeline/major-epidemics-modern-era
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Graham said:
In UK I got that round area puncture shot in my early teens in the 70s, it was called the BCG.
It was supposed to protect from Tuberculosis.
Absolute rubbish of course.
I am not aware of any adverse effects beyond a sore arm, but as I’m a control group of one there’s no way to know..
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mantalo said:
who saw the idiocracy movie?
“planet stupid”
this may be the goal sought by the VOC …
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Smallpox. That’s interesting about smallpox vaccines etc. A doctor interviewed at mercola.com maybe ten years ago said, as I recall, that Jenner didn’t give injections, but merely made scratches on people’s arms and applied a toxin to them, to which the immune system was able to develop immunity. Injections bypass most of the immune system and are thus not effective.
Neil Z Miller wrote a book about vaccinations and in it he showed graphs of the histories of various vaccinations. What they showed was that all of the diseases were in great decline before the first vaccine for each one began to be given. The rate of decline generally continued at the same rate as before the vaccines were given. I believe he stated that No vaccine has ever been proven to be safe or effective.
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tony martin said:
“What they showed was that all of the diseases were in great decline before the first vaccine for each one began to be given. ”
The main thing that stopped disease was “proper sanitation”.
They used to throw shit out on the street and then they wondered why somebody got sick? Duh.
People don’t realize that it was was the introduction of the toilet bowl and the sewer system that stop all the diseases … not vaccines.
But I guess that’s too complicated for people to understand.
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Graham said:
Yep thats right.
I just finished reading an interesting little book called Florence Nightingale’s Pandemic.
Apparently cholera was the thing all over the East India Company’s terrain throughout the 1800s (most of the world). She was instrumental in beefing up the Public Health Act of 1875 that forced authorities to install sanitation in every home in UK, and as a result life expectancy as good as doubled over the next couple of decades.
Interesting little read.
One of my favourite quotes of hers:
“The specific disease doctrine is the grand refuge of weak, uncultured, unstable minds, such as now rule in the medical profession. There are no specific diseases: there are specific disease conditions.”
Although from money, seems her lifes work was about improving the survival rate of the poor. Or as she called them, “the labouring classes”
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mantalo said:
there is no “specific disease”… i’m ok with that
but there are symptoms and when the doctor (authority in a white coat as was the schoolmaster) gives a name to the symptoms, then the disease is created…
the patient lives with the name of his illness in his head,
a name that turns and turns in his head,
the more the illness is deemed to be serious, the more its name turns like an obsession.
as the doctor also described all the possible symptoms, the patient, obeying the authority, ends up developing these other symptoms …
which feeds the doctors, the hospital staff, the paramedics, the social security systems, the supplementary health insurance (all of which belong to blackrock), the pharmaceutical industry, etc., (about 5% of the population feed like a scavenger on the disease of the 95%).
and if one of the symptoms is death, then the patient, whose mind is weakened by the drugs charitably prescribed by his doctor and eagerly sold by the pharmacist, obeys and dies.
it is the same principle as paying firefighters to extinguish fires.
You end up having firefighters lighting fires.
When a system feeds on the misfortune of its children, then it is rotten …
rotten
children
rott
child
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mantalo said:
about east india compagny :
The Dutch East India Company (known in Dutch as Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, in its modern spelling Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie, or VOC, literally “United East India Company”) is a trading company created by the Provinces- United in 1602.
For almost two centuries, it was one of the pillars of the power of Dutch capitalism and imperialism.
Disbanded in 1799, the company is known to have been one of the most powerful capitalist enterprises to ever exist, contributing significantly to the history of stock exchanges.
I let you appreciate their logo
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnie_n%C3%A9erlandaise_des_Indes_orientales#/media/Fichier:VOC.svg
VOC
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Michael Deloatch said:
Life in 2021 is surreal ain’t it. My young adult son who lives with us still woke me up a while ago having an allergic reaction to something. A few years back he accidentally ate shellfish and went anaphylactic so I have brought him to the ER satellite location of a local hospital.
The lobby is unattended here at 4:30 am local and hca has provided a cheerful self check in kiosk. Touch screen to begin it said — only it was completely DOA. Let me guess r2d2 i said you are running windows and have crashed. I finally unplugged the kiosk for 15 secs and back in to reboot it. sure enough the loopy insipid circle of dots began their magic hypnotic dance of hirry up and wait while windows gets it together.
After a moment it booted to a windows desktop. yours truly then got to find the icon from a dozen or so to start the kiosk app up. by then a nurse came out and took my son back anyway since we surely were on candid camera.
I retired a couple years ago from an IT job in corporate america. The experience i just walked through set off about five alarms in my mind from security and quality of service in a critical setting.
Meanwhile i discovered in the age of covid i am an unemployable boomer
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Dennis Budimir said:
If it says “your comment is awaiting moderation”, does that really mean it has gone to spam and stays there?
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Josh said:
Dennis see the link at the top on comment troubleshooting
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Mswinkle said:
Josh can you give us an update with what is happening in Israel regarding the government 8/8 mandate or law.? How are people reacting? What are you doing and how will your life be impacted by this 8/8 mandate?
Appreciate it as it seems NYC is only a few weeks and steps behind what Israel is doing
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Josh said:
MSWinkle I’m not in Israel at the moment and haven’t been paying close attention. I do know that Naftali Bennett has been ramping up the incitement against the unvaccinated. I know that the green pass is going back into effect and it seems this time is going to be more serious than when it was started a few months ago. But it’s hard to say because there can be a huge gap between rhetoric and reality. But it seems like the green pass implementation a few months ago was just to soften the public and gauge the public’s acquiescence. This time definitely seems more serious. A lot of people were fired or unable to find a job back then, even though the green pass did not require employers to discriminate. So that was a big deal.
There is a group that filed for injunctive relief from the supreme court to ban the green pass. There should be a ruling on that by the end of the month.
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Mswinkle said:
@mantalo. I think you’re right. The resistance was CO and made it easier to switch them in to power etc when they moved from war to freedom.
the resistance was controlled opposition, dear … because it was out of the question that real resistance fighters jeopardize the plans of the bankers.
And now that I see the cowardice of humans, I don’t think there was a single real resistant in France … actors, yes, real ones, no.
De Gaulle said “the French are calves” and the calves were far too busy hiding under their beds or denouncing their neighbor to imagine for one second resisting the invader …
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Ultimate Truther said:
@Josh – I read somewhere (maybe JPost?) that the Israeli “green pass” will only come back for certain types of settings, such as large events and not across the board like it did the first time round.
That being said, who knows? Rules seems to change every day.
I personally don’t think any of this will last. The EU is saying their green passes will be valid from July 1, 21 to June 30, 22. Of course they could be extended beyond then, but I have the feeling that things will start to fizzle out around about then.
They still haven’t vaccinated enough suckers.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Yes, I agree. There seems to be a link between prolonged periods of low solar activity and Pandemic outbreaks, which occur every 100 years or so, at the turn of the century. Some interesting info on the development and use of emergency vaccines can be found here…
“The 1918-19 Spanish Influenza Pandemic and Vaccine Development”
https://tinyurl.com/ncx9uwva
Go compare how the same snake-oil salesmen of today do business verses 100 years ago.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
SOCIAL CREDIT SCORE LITE: DEBANKING reported by anti-immigrant lobby ALIPAC, Christian media outlet TruNews, anti-vaxer and Hitler buff radio host Jeff Rense, and uncensored social media outlet GAB. Targets have been happily volunteered for PayPal death by ADL, the demon spawn of Frankist B’nai Brith’s zombie Atlanta leader, undead Leo Max Frank. Frankist “Jews” are the anti-moral messianic Jews who kill Jews on case you forgot. As with Stalin and Ukraine farmers, it starts with DEBANKING .
http:// http://www.alipac.us
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Kevin said:
Gosh – what are the odds?
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Lio said:
Countless examples of this same thing saved on my computer. Every time I show any of it to anyone, a chuckle and a shrug is the only response.
Most people don’t WANT to know what kind of world they live in.
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Lewis reid said:
They’re really desperate to get the masses poisoned. Suffer the children condemned.
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rolleikin said:
It’s so easy to fake multiple opinions on the internet. A single spook can post under hundreds of screen names. However, the lazy dope that posted these didn’t bother to vary the script. 🙂
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Stephen said:
@Kevin I have several of these screencaps showing obvious bot activity. Here’s another one:
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rolleikin said:
Is the Epsilon Variant next?
This CNN article says,
“Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert [cough], said people choosing not to get the vaccine are also upping the chances of another coronavirus variant emerging, one that could be more aggressive and more pervasive than the Delta variant.”
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mantalo said:
The Greek alphabet had 24 letters.
epsilon being the 5th, we will have to stuff it with 19 more?
as in covid 19?
notice, when it’s over, what remains of decimated humanity will know its “classic letters” ah ah
unless we stop at Theta, the 8th letter, which sounds a bit like theater
otherwise, interesting detail about Greek vowels descending from Phoenician consonants:
The original vowels are “Α” (alpha), “Ε” (epsilon), “Ι” (iota), “Ο” (omicron) and “Υ” (upsilon), which are adaptations of Semitic consonants, superfluous in Greek
superflu-ous … Super flu !
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Helen Papadopoulos said:
The Greek alphabet still has 24 letters. The Phoenicians took ‘their’ consonants from the Greek alphabet.
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mantalo said:
Sorry Helen, i forgot the greek was not, like latin, a dead langage…
i apologize.
i took too much vax-in… I’m getting silly
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Ultimate Truther said:
@mantalo, we’ve already passed through several of them, probably around 10 already. Some of the previous ones were initially named “South African variant”, “English variant” and so forth. There are a few “scary” ones they’re now ramping up the fear factor with, these being Delta and soon Lambda. A list I saw suggests they’ve got a few more to go, until the vaccine trials end in February 2023.
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mantalo said:
sorry, i turned off the tv and google news and i don’t buy the newspapers … i missed almost every episode of the series in fashion.
because I’m not fan 🙂
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Benjamin said:
That virus so deadly we had to lock down the entire world was really just child’s play. One day we will look back on that and consider it a triviality. Not because it was fake, oh no, but because we will have lived the future, which was far, far worse. Brace yourself folks, coming soon (to a screen near you), “Covid could mutate into ‘ultimate strain’ 600 TIMES more infectious than Wuhan original.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15785038/covid-mutate-ultimate-strain/
I put the calculations into my artistic calculator, and yep, that number is correct to the decimal place.
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mantalo said:
“The game plan still works, but we need to implement and execute our game plan much more efficiently and much more effectively than we’ve ever done before”
pfffff… zob
stop please, we are tired with your stupid games, plans, implementations, executions efficiency, effectiveness… we are tired with you, folks.
plan something nice, please… something like : you all go in a box, we close the box, we blow on the box and when we open it after 2 minutes, you all have disappeared… all of you….
pft, abracadabra, magic, no more phoenix, no more rotten children, no more gates, no more bill, no more debt, no more bankers, no more president, no more lies or lys or lily, no more fitzking, no more YOU !
i had a dream…………
earth was free from ball-, bill-, bull-shit !
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tony martin said:
”another coronavirus variant emerging, one that could be more aggressive and more pervasive than the Delta variant.”
I guess when they get to the”Omega Variant” they’ll have to start over again.
Coronavirus Alpha Variant 2.0.
If the controllers have their way…I guess we will have “never ending vaccines” for the variances?
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MathisderMaler said:
They skipped straight to lambda, nobody knows why. Just because we are lambs, I guess.
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Josh said:
Miles haven’t you heard about delta plus?
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tony martin said:
Delta Plus… Isn’t that a gas additive that makes your engine run smoother?
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Michael Deloatch said:
I’m not Miles, but I have heard of that
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Patrick said:
“Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert [cough]”…
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Greg said:
If posting FB pages is not allowed please discard this comment. However I found a lady that has some answers if you can get her to talk. Miles is correct with the names linked together and Ashli Pamatian from Lakeside CA popped up recently, as it did not show in my search last week., Babbit, McEntee, Witthoeft, Vandenbergh all connected. https://www.facebook.com/deborah.witthoeftvandenbergh
Regardless we know “Ashli” isn’t dead.
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Lio said:
So where are all the “more aggressive, more infectious, more deadly” variants of the flu or the common cold? How about chicken pox or measles?
Does the covid have intelligence? It seems to be able to directly and immediately respond specifically to any resistance to what the underlords demand. Almost as if someone is giving it orders. Or a bully on the playground who makes up new rules when the other kids don’t play his game the way he wants them to.
I think more than anything this hoax has exposed to me who in my circle is actually intelligent and who has just been pretending the whole time.
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suntzufighting said:
Funny I thought exactly the same about the pseudo-intelligent revealing themselves. I also wonder if an appearance of intelligence can be simulated with conviction. Kind of like a slow processor running a simulation of a fast processor. Shortcuts&little scripts would do the trick, as well as studied mannerisms. Ever saw Aelon steeple his fingers and bow his head when he is supposedly pondering a deep question?
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Lio said:
I like the term “midwit” – people just smart enough to believe they can’t be fooled, too dumb to realize they already are
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notabaron said:
The script writers miss little things.
Like font sizes.
A few years ago, I was out of town at an old friends house for a few nights and got the spare room with a book shelf and read Elon’s “#1 promoted best seller autobiography” and page 1 I knew it was fake because of the font size and a hibrid of cooper and helvitica. Just silly choices for and intellectual book about a real scientist. Plus it pads the book. The oldest graphic design prop in the biz is size though. Make bigger letters to inform more people (maybe not dumb but with very 2D understanding of the world) not about Elon’s life, but that Elon is a smart man. It felt like I was reading a kids book about a scientist. Like my 5th grade buddy was pressed to write a sci-fi book.
But look who they are manly targeting at the young. The young are the perpetual MANY. They are familiar with sims in their games looking like scientists their whole lives.
In answer to your question, yeah they are selling the appearance of intelligence but the cliched version that naturally nitwitted individuals would perceive to be smart. Elon as Tonystark Brucewayne. Fauci Gates Reed Richards all the cartoons of the harmless hero scientists, tailored to fool the empathetic layman and buy it HARD!
It took this covid construct to teach me that the point of all the sci-fi movies is the SCI.
I have like many been a “fan” of SCI – fi books and comics over the last century at 45 I have seen it’s evolution. I have heard Orson fooling the world with an Alien invasion (on record). That little trick resonated. Star Wars, 2001 even basic monster movies. It was not whether it was aliens, time travel, zombiepocalype, X-mutants etc. It was not a cute E.T. or Predatory Robocunts or Jules Vernes and innocent underwater adventures. It was to enforce the SCI. It never mattered that we believed in the illogical impractical fantasy worlds because we were witnessing first hand the real effects of science and technology on our world but the same majority passively ignores the phenomenon that science fiction has had over the entire culture.
Cue greatest trick ever. they have made that science a FICTION. Just because everyone has the highest tech gadgets ever known to man in their back pockets they are led to believe that these same geniuses are hard at work testing and protecting everyone in their imaginary sci-fi utopia. The less the plot twists and overly complicated villain backstories and henchman family names the better.
The info they actually do imbibe, if any, will never align with their perception of their events anymore than they can recognize these lapses for what they are doing to society or their own bodies. They and being robotomized in front of our very eyes before they even begin real biodigital melding that is now being shopped to the canadian govt. Before we are true android they need another few generations spooky minions minioning in the future Covid Affairs Departments filing info over their desktop graphics of heroes like Elon and Einstein and other “gods” of faked science while panopticon security cameras watch every move. On their breaks at the Starfucks they click on their mindgrams for the latest scoop about that hot celebtard in hotwater over some hot tweet about the new headpod mandates in the state of Moderna or Idaho or whatever they will call states or provinces by then.
But yet, today, these same minions would call my rant above science fiction.
Which is exactly what they want. The want science fiction. They want to be cast members. They need to be as important as other masked heroes selfishly satisfying sensations rather that logic or universal etical truth it’s own “selflessness” is paradoxically the most selfish base reactions to any real “catastrophe”. It is what they crave.
Even the new gender projects point to this. Fiction overriding Science. Real life science fiction. By becoming involved in this way, endowed with this holy cause, it is as if they have been blessed the same way a religious person would. They want to believe so badly that they simply believe. Ultimate FAITH. By accepting the fiction they become a participant in the story, the game. A game they will never let themselves lose by admission or break their character with a confession. Unfortunately we all know who their opponents are and it is not the phoenies. It is us.
But personally at this stage of life I like it I am down with 2 or 3 company dinners a year, the wifes fam on the other side of time and I am golden. I had a truthknower old friend over last night and realized it is time to appreciate the best in the few rather than to satisfy a bunch of revealed losers in the many. Can’t stop that cheesy ass line by house of pain “fck ’em and feed ’em cuz i don’t need ’em” but its true. Fck em.
I have a lot of gratitude for this little hold out. This forum is a small miracle. In church days there would have been only a few local heretics, silently alone with hoax knowledge and a few head nods over ales at the tavern, but here we have a global discourse where we can gavanize arguments and maybe lure a few sheep that stray from the flock. My old buddy made a few converts lately so there is that. A drop in the bucket maybe. Why else do they let it exist? I offer this last rumination into the realm of fictionalized science. Perhaps in their long range plans they are simply farming text as a way to program fake avatars commenting on future antivaxxmask forums, giving a perpetual impression of hope that there are other likeminded questioners in some futile future. So at that, I have wasted enough time of Garibaldisexxclown78 in 2318 f*ck him anyway….lunch awaits.
peace @sun.
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tony martin said:
@notabaron
“I have like many been a “fan” of SCI – fi”
I think one of the most enlightening episodes of sci-fi is Star Trek’s episode.
Day of the Dove.
It shows that people are fighting against each other …. when they should be fighting the “real enemy” which is the Controllers that thrive on our hatred,ignorance and fear of each other.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7y1teh
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
Vector of Spanish Flu was Fort Riley, Kansas next to Manhattan, Kansas that is now installing Wuhan-type Level 4 lab. Spain had press freedom during WW1 so dubbed Spanish, not Kansas Flu. God bless us everyone.
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Swathy Krishna said:
So my friend’s mom took the vaccine(Asstra one, I think), and is now very weak and unable to get out of the bed(which is normal, you phillistines!). She also got tested positive for covid! Wait… the cure was the poison?!? But seriously I hope none of the other worse symptoms show up. She got coerced by her co workers and her boss.
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Wayne said:
An actual vaccine would lead to testing positive for the infection, how else to stimulate the human body to create the antibodies.
The PCR test is not a valid diagnostic test. False positives seem to be the norm depending on the number of cycles.
How much of the ill effects are induced by gaslighting the masses?
Make someone think that they are certain to die horribly, would their health improve, stay the same, or decline?
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Swathy Krishna said:
Exactly man, a psyop by definition. Still in awe with the level of compliance though. Talk about lastmanhood.
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Chris Ryska said:
@ tony martin, Is there hope for New York now that Cuomo is being thrown under the bus? Or, is it simply a warning to Biden to stay on script, or else??
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tony martin said:
I don’t know … I don’t follow the news too closely.
The thing I fear the most is when they tell you that you can’t go to the store unless you’re vaccinated.
I guess you could get a vaccinated person to go to the store for you … or I might have to dust off my edible plants in the wilderness book and shoot game offseason.
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rolleikin said:
“The thing I fear the most is when they tell you that you can’t go to the store unless you’re vaccinated.”
If it comes to that I think there will always be ways around it.
I don’t want to go into details as that might “touch a nerve” of the more sensitive members of the forum. 🙂
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Ultimate Truther said:
@rolleikin, one way which would work in developing countries where corruption is a big thing is purchasing a vaccine certificate from a doctor or a bureaucrat. Not likely to be an option in America or any other developed country, however, an outright mandate is unlikely so you can always use the legal system or various loopholes to get out of any forced vaccination.
@tony martin – online grocery shopping will continue to be an option. It’s the way I’ve done 95% of my grocery purchases since April 2020, because I don’t want to wear a muzzle. Anyway, it’s more convenient, I don’t have to pay for gas and I don’t waste any time going to the store.
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rolleikin said:
“online grocery shopping will continue to be an option”
That’s true. You can buy pretty much anything online.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Well, you do pay for gas, you’re just not pumping it into your own car. 🙂
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Michael Deloatch said:
@ ultimate truther – yet you risk making yourself a shut-in dependent on someone else to bring food to your door. What happens when that stops happening?
Sorry but it reminds me of a prisoner in a wild west TV show waiting for the pretty girl to bring him some grub from the saloon. Eventually the sheriff may decide it’s beans on Sundays and hardtack every other day for you.
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Ultimate Truther said:
You have to adapt with the times. That said, at the same time as I’m grocery shopping online, I’m also starting my own garden and I’m slowly stockpiling non-perishables. I don’t think we’re going to see online grocery delivery end where I am any time soon. Just isn’t going to happen.
What might happen in the future, remains to be seen. For now, it’s a reliable method of getting supplies, even if the odd item is out now and then. In 5 or 10 years from now, I’ve already got a plan. I personally don’t see Armageddon coming this year or next. I just think that’s too far fetched. Closer to 2030? Maybe. But I’m preparing for that now.
If I went to the store in person, I’d spend well over an hour getting there and another hour to get back, only to find many of the items I’d like to purchase are out of stock. Might as well stay home and spare myself this wasteful journey.
There are also local markets nearby as well as enterprising individuals selling everything from fruits and vegetables to iced tea from the back of their vehicles. Therefore, visiting a physical grocery store isn’t really necessary.
The way I see it, they’ll probably close grocery stores long before delivery services are stopped. That way the old and those who don’t know how to use technology will find it more difficult to buy food.
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Ultimate Truther said:
@In other words Michael relying on a physical grocery store is putting yourself at equal if not greater risk the way i see it.
A friend in Florida tells me half of the stock at his local Walmart is out since weeks. Barely any meat, eggs, fresh produce on the shelves. The goods are there, but there’s no one to stock them.
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Jared Magneson said:
@Ultimate Truther: people in Florida shop at Publix for food, not Wal-Mart. Nobody should be shopping at Wal-Mart for food. Disgusting. No.
And if half the stock is out, then half of it is IN, and so anyone wanting to buy stuff can just buy it anyway. Your friend seems unaware of what “half” means. And my people down there are having no problems at all acquiring groceries, nor is anyone anywhere else.
Gardening is always the right thing to do, but attaining self-sufficiency that way is a tough stretch. Just keep going, keep working on your infrastructure and everything you grow helps of course! This year, I’m focusing mostly on peppers, tomatoes, tomatillos, and herbs. The potato harvest was alright so far, onions and garlic aren’t doing so hot. It’s always a work in progress!
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Patrick said:
@Jared Magneson: Saying “people in Florida shop at Publix for food, not Wal-Mart” is wildly inaccurate. Many towns do not have a Publix and many people cannot afford Publix anyway. A lot of people are poor and have to buy food at WM. Sorry you find that disgusting.
Where are your people down here, West Palm? Joking, that, sort of.
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tony martin said:
I don’t know … I don’t follow the news that much.
And I think Josh should ban anybody that calls someone a coward.
We’re all just trying to figure this crazy insane shit out together.
By the way I’ve never told anybody that I was vaccinated.
There are real people with real jobs that they are losing because they’re not vaccinated. All you heroes out there … do you wanna feed their family when they don’t have any money? So if there was a way to deceive their employer why not?
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Jared Magneson said:
Banning someone for using the word, “coward” IS fucking cowardice, Tony. If you’re afraid of the truth, afraid of accuracy, and afraid of WORDS, then stop using them. Stop talking. Stop typing, stop reading, bury your head in the sand, and stop even trying to think.
Banned for using a word. Jesus fucking Christ.
Disagree with me, argue, debate, discuss. But calling for CENSORSHIP, over a perfectly legitimate word, even if you disagree about its accuracy? You know who else does that, right?
Cunts, Tony. Cunts do that. Phoenician cunts, Tyrant cunts, and Langley authoritarian cunts.
Is that word better for you?
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tony martin said:
I remember josh saying that we were supposed to be civil to a certain extent.
I didn’t say that curse words were wrong … I use them all the time.
But defaming someone’s character just because they want to feed their family and keep their job a coward or a cunt is not helpful.
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tony martin said:
PS
I was banned last year by josh for l think it was a month, for saying unsavory things to people getting in arguments and what not. But l learned my lesson and try not to insult anybody.
Maybe l shouldn’t have used the word ban… but he should reprimand people for not having a civil discourse.
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rolleikin said:
“By the way I’ve never told anybody that I was vaccinated.”
Neither have I.
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suntzufighting said:
Some of us here are full of piss and vinegar, myself included. We are in a tent and should be pissing OUT, not in, to mangle some Phoeney warlord’s expression.
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Wayne said:
I saw something about Cuomo’s troubles today, sorry I can’t locate the reference at the moment, where it was suggested in a comment that the Democrats are narrowing the choices to be the Democrat Presidential candidate in 2024, and Cuomo was an early loser.
Purged by the Party.
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Maria said:
I linked to this earlier, but I think that link doesn’t work anymore and so I just wanted to put up an updated link to the presentations by Sucahrit Bahkdi and Micheal Palmer on the toxicity of the mRNA vaccines. These are useful presentations to inform people about the dangers of these vaccines. See from 52 min to 1 hour, 36 min to catch this presentation. The presentation is part of a larger symposium. Not going to vouch for all the participants of the symposium as I suspect some of them to be a little spooky. From what I can deduce though, the information from Bahkdi and Palmer seems logical and useful. It also fits with reports of side effects both from VAERS and from online groups where people detail their experiences with these vaccines. On the doctors for Covid ethics website, one can find a pdf with the Bahkdi and Palmer presentation.
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C Stayton said:
Thanks Maria.
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Stephen said:
Here’s a theory:
Trump stopped the mRNA vax mostly or entirely. VAERS data is suspect. If you believe worldwide case data can be faked, you should not take adverse reaction data at face value.
RFK Jr’s white-hat doctor/spook entourage is now broadcasting the gloomy version of How it Might Have Been via Planet Lockdown film, symposia, interviews, etc, highlighting the danger of this particular gene therapy. Saving someone is a lot more rewarding if they know they were saved, but this is being done mainly to separate Trump from the hoax that he would otherwise appear to be the architect of prior to his return. Drop covid in Biden’s lap prior to election revelations so it doesn’t boil up on Trump’s watch later. The idea here is you can’t be mad at Trump for going along with fake virus if he intercepted Fauci’s death drugs.
You do not need Kennedys or Trump to be saints in order for this to be true. Look at them as ranchers driving their cattle into a better pasture. You need the covid bomb to explode on old Joe prior to the right wing comeback.
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Thomas said:
Can this be true? A Court cannot prove the virus exist.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BDuAaXtTNPEU/
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Jared Magneson said:
Yes, and we’ve been at this angle the entire time as well. There’s a big case in South Africa posted above too, where even their own president and staff had to DODGE and never show up to the case because they didn’t have a prayer in hell of winning it.
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suntzufighting said:
Jared, could you link me up with the South African article? I know nothing about it and I live here.
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notabaron said:
Stephen said: July 30, 2021 at 5:29 am
A South African citizen seems to have a sincere effort going and explains his case that the SARS-CoV-2 virus doesn’t exist: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/U8pFRoeI7dXM/
The related website is here: https://www.showusthevirus.info/
Basically the IMF and SA reserve banks are indicted for attempting a takeover of the country by using the fake virus story to cause chaos.
He refers directly to Kaufman’s SOVI.
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notabaron said:
It is hopeful in it’s simplicity, revealing that they are unable to provide proof of a virus. The rest is all obfuscation.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
The media in SA, just like every other country, apply ‘censorship by omission’ to anything that doesn’t confirm the official script. Shame this case failed on the grounds of lack of urgency, with the defendants being able to crush the case without testing the main claim that the virus is fake.
The judges ruling here…
Click to access 7a8151_e8221b118ff74402b42a89f8d39a4c4e.pdf
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rolleikin said:
Making the public tremble in fear of things that don’t exist is the specialty and earmark of our controllers. They’ve been doing it for hundreds of years at least.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Boys crying wolf. They’ve been doing it with hurricanes for years. They take the highest dropsonde reading they can find, usually from an altitude of ten thousand feet or higher, and base the hurricane’s scariness factor on that. Never mind that surface winds are maybe 40 mph, they NEVER report that. So the meat puppets on TV yammer on about 150 mph winds, red banners crawl across the TV screen 24 hours a day telling you to be scared, people flock to the store to buy more supplies (including gasoline), then the storm comes and it’s a nothingburger. Not all of them have been nothingburgers, but enough to establish a pattern. Same pattern as Covid.
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Jared Magneson said:
I think the critical, key difference here is that hurricanes and storms are real. Solid walls and foundations along with strong roofing and construction actually defend against hurricanes. And they work really well, generally.
The pandemic bullshit is NOT real. No amount of defense is necessary except the mental fortitude to pierce their veil of lies and shadows. But against a fake virus, one needs no physical defenses.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
Citizens in Portugal sued to demand proof that the Polmerase Chain Reaction test for Corona was valid and as it is not, won; and sued to demand death records, centralized in Portugal, and won battle showing no unusual death rate from Corona. JESUS MERCY!
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stonesmasher said:
Here’s an update on the case referred to in the bitchute link posted by Thomas https://pressfortruth.ca/i-wasnt-successful-no-i-did-not-win-the-court-case-patrick-king-on-press-for-truth/
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MathisderMaler said:
Yes, but the guy saying King is controlled opp is. . . a controlled opp, pushing FlatEarth.
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Wayne said:
@Miles I caught that too. Was going to comment, then I saw your comment.
“Not a globe, faking space.”
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Roelf_zelf said:
It’s about the photo, isn’t it?
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Wayne said:
Miles Mathis hasn’t critiqued the character Spartacus in his papers.
He has outed the Spartacus League as a project of the Usual Suspects in a few papers. They played a role in the Beer Hall Putsch [putsch.pdf].
If it’s promoted by Hollywood, you can be fairly certain that it is misdirection.
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suntzufighting said:
Movies that reveres the fight for freedom usually end with the hero meeting a grisly fate, like Braveheart. The serfs watch it, fantasize about kicking the overlords in the teeth, but the take-away is that if you do that, you die. Spartacus. Is Ben Hur, which I never watched, the same trope?
Feel free to add to my list of similarly-themed propaganda.
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Jared Magneson said:
It’s often very true. But then think of the shows and movies that tell us the exact opposite – some stories are just STORIES. Some causes can in fact BE noble.
What’s the sci-fi magical laser-sword show all about? Oh yeah, a successful rebellion against a corrupt, evil Empire. I’m not a big fan but the THEME is there, yeah?
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Patton. He was kicking fascist butt and died before he could kick the commies.
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Wayne said:
Sorry to burst your hero worship, but George S Patton is related to the Phoenician families. Multiple papers reference the surname Patton, and George S. in there specifically in several. Amelia Earhart is related to George S. Patton. Davy Crockett was related to a Col. James Patton in the Alamo paper.
Long before the movie came out, around 1961-2, I had read a biography of Patton and was impressed. My father was an USAF officer.
I do still have reverence for Patton. I have visited the American Cemetery in Hamm, Luxembourg. I had a friend from NYC, a local contact there, who happened to be a docent at the Cemetery. Our visit was private, after hours, two days before Christmas. On a moonlit evening, cold, clear, with snow on the ground. Apt timing and climate for remembering the Battle of the Bulge and visiting Patton’s grave among the many graves there.
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mswinkle said:
Josh,
I can’t reply up thread. Have you left Israel for good? If not, then what do you think you will do? The new green pass is way more draconian then its predecessor. Basically they are going to make it impossible to live and work if you are not doubled jabbed and getting non stop boosters.
It is also so crazy. Gee we have the unelected CDC telling small landlords they will be fined and sent to jail if they try to collect rent or evict tenants.
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Josh said:
Ms Winkle, no I haven’t left Israel for good. Just visiting family. I don’t know what I will do. The green pass does not apply to employers and as of now my employer has not made any demands and I don’t think they will. I am keeping my fingers crossed and meanwhile trying to fight the good fight.
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Ultimate Truther said:
Seems like they’re again ramping this up. This article shows it’s worse than what I thought, based on a previous article I’ve read. That stated – it could be a case of applying this green pass again for a few months before it stops being used again.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/green-pass-system-kicks-back-in-for-events-venues-with-over-100-people/
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mswinkle said:
Josh
Thanks for getting back to me. Not sure what the law is in Israel, but saw a tweet from a civil rights attorney in USA that is an employer mandates it, except two and quite weak exceptions (medical and religious) you have little legal recourse and can be fired for cause if you refuse and thus unable to get unemployment. I will try and find the twitter thread.
Will you quit your job is they mandate it? Also, I remember when this whole Covid thing started you said your father was a doctor in a major hospital and it was very serious. What does your dad think now?
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C Stayton said:
To remind us all of who we’re up against:
Our greatest human enemies are walking macaronis. Look up ‘macaroni fashion’ if you don’t know what I mean. They’re myopic and effete and have been for centuries, and they get weaker each generation. Feet of clay. Snake eating its own tail. They will be their own downfall. Don’t fear these diseased peacocks. The stronger they appear, the more vulnerable they become. Whatever way you choose to fight them, just remember what they really are: MACARONIS.
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FiddleSticks said:
Makes you wanna barf no??????
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John C. said:
Check out the noses on those characters.
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tony martin said:
This looks like a picture from an insane asylum… Or probability the royal palace or a skull and bones psycho ceremony of some kind.
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FiddleSticks said:
Most likely from the Royal Palace Skull and Bones Party…….The only insane asylums are the ones the Phoney’s create and most of those don’t actually exist, let alone house these FAKE Bastards. You know, it’s all coming back to me now…..
Wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,
“Yankee Doodle went to town, riding on his pony……
Stuck a feather in his hat and called it MACARONI,”
How fucking STUPID is that???
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tony martin said:
They had a lot of crazy songs back in those days.
It reminds me of the song that Mr. Edwards and Laura sang on the little house on the prairie tv show.
Old Dan Tucker was a fine old man
He washed his face in the frying pan
He combed his hair with a wagon wheel
And died of the toothache in his heel
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
It gets better in the next couple of verses, Fiddle Sticks…
“Yankee Doodle keep it up,
Yankee Doodle dandy,
Mind the music and the step,
And with the girls be handy.
Father and I went down to camp,
Along with Captain Gooding,
And there we saw the men and boys
As thick as hasty pudding.”
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
I started wondering if the word Yankee, which is theoretically derived from the Dutch nickname Jan Kees or possibly Janneke, could have been originally a pejorative to describe the Dutch East Indies Trading Company people, because the colonists figured out what was what. What if the phrase, “Yankee go home!” were just the kind of thing we ought to be shouting? A Nicaraguan balladeer wrote the Hymn of Sandinista Unity containing the line, “…we fight against the Yankee, enemy of mankind.” If Carlos Mejia Godoy knew the Yankees were the Phoenician Navy, maybe he was on to something. But I doubt he was any more “in the know” than anybody else and was likely controlled opposition.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
@Dent Arthur Dent:
Yankees = wankers or tossers?
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
You’re either the yanker or the yankee.
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rolleikin said:
Now this CNN article says:
“The next variant is just around the corner”
Funny, though, that they’re still saying less than half the USA population has been vaccinated (49.8%). I’m guessing it’s really more like 25-33% judging by all the desperate attempts to scare the public into capitulating.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Yes, 33 sounds spot on!
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Patrick said:
I scanned the network propaganda outlets yesterday and came across a lengthy piece featuring six or seven semi-famous people who made fun of The Dreaded Plague
and then — Oh, the humanity! — died from it. Subtle.
Here’s a good one. This dude, Dmitriy Stuzhuk, a fitness influencer, told his followers that CV wasn’t real. Well, sure, he caught it and died from it at age 33. It gets better. His ex-wife confirmed his death in an Instagram post on October 17. Before his sad and tragic end, he flexes his muscles in a photo labeled “Coronavirus Day 8.” This guy’s veins and arteries had muscles, so, you get the picture: don’t toy with The Plague. Never mind all the magic number clues we keep shoving in your face and get your shot while they last!
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoGwcvYqtgM
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Ultimate Truther said:
What do you guys think about these insane comments from the British transport secretary?
Bluff or a preview of future reality?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brits-need-covid-jabs-foreign-24692224
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Wayne said:
France requires a scannable QR code, pass sanitaire, to gain entrance into public buildings.
Usually, the pass is obtained by submitting your social security number, but there is an alternate method to obtaining a pass without a social security number.
This creates an opportunity, as the French will only check the QR code on the phone without corroborating personal identity.
From “https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/30/something_for_the_weekend/”
“I hold out my driving licence but no one wants to see it. A scannable QR code is all they wanted. I could have shown them anybody’s vaccination QR code and they would have accepted it.”
“Evidently I am not the only person to realise this: a black market in QR code crowdsharing has appeared virtually overnight. Rich gangsters and penniless university students have found that they can earn extra cash by renting their QR-Codes out to busy people who haven’t had their second jab yet – and indeed to those who refuse to get any. There’s no need to create a fake pass sanitaire: you just borrow a real one from someone else, with their knowledge.”
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MathisderMaler said:
So, boycott all public buildings, and all private businesses that require vaccines. If that happened, it wouldn’t last long.
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FiddleSticks said:
Exactly……we HAVE THE POWER to put this all to rest. Require a Vax or mask to fly on our airline? Fuck your airline. I’ll drive. Require a Vax or mask to attend our ballgame? Fuck your ballgame, I’ll smoke a brisket. Require a Vax or mask to enter our grocery store? Fuck you, I’ll find another store and start my own garden. Require a Vax or mask to enter our bar? Fuck you….I’ll drink at home. We really do have the power……Do you really think most of these smaller companies want to go out of business due to you taking your business elsewhere? Due to you taking a stand? At some point, due to OUR pressure, small businesses won’t even consider enforcing their draconian bullshit due to their own survival. And as for the big corporations………..well there are ways around them too. When enough small businesses say “Fuck You” to the Phoneys, their bullshit plan will blow-back in their faces and they will have to scramble to try to save face……..We are on to you assholes. We know what you are going to do before you do it. You are PATHETIC. You are a PARASITE, and we will exterminate you.
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Greg said:
You would think these places would go out of business or bankrupt. However they can survive and thrive thru tax dollars, grants, annual loan covenant restructuring and share dilutions. If taverns and floral shops in my tiny county area, can get half a million dollars in Covid grants and another half a million in forgivable PPP loans, even small local businesses can thrive and never close. Although they all give a sob story in the local newspapers. You can look at some of the businesses in your town and ask yourself how does that $2000 a month lease get paid, when there are rarely any customers there. Ask the owners and listen to their very creative excuses.
As of now Corporate America does not need to sell any products or services to the masses, they can scale down and be selective on who their customer base is.
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mantalo said:
yes Miles, that’s what I’m going to do …
unless my employer requires two shoots to allow me to earn my living, in which case I will have to find another solution …
sending him to put a big thing where the sun never shines is an option …
but, my daughter, a student, cannot be like me: she needs to go to school, take public transport, and go with her friends to bars and restaurants … she refuses to do without that because, for her, it represents a normal life.
So, I’m going to have to find a different solution for my daughter. which one, i don’t know
thanks Wayne
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archer-d said:
New article from Miles: Rommel was also jJewish – http://mileswmathis.com/rommel.pdf
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suntzufighting said:
Scheisse!
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
It’s still hard to fathom what WWII was really all about. A nutjob gay jew wanting more living space for non-jewish Germans, willing to make a burned offering of his own people, and an empire wanting to control Pacific merchant trade?
Was Japan run by crypto jews too? Is that why we needed to create a strawman characature of “Tojo,” with buck teeth and Coke bottle glasses, so we wouldn’t see them as jews?
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rolleikin said:
I think it was about making lots of money on arms production, stealing lots of gold, art, and other valuables, demolishing lots of real estate so as to make lots of money on rebuilding and, of course, loaning lots of money to countries that would then be forever in debt to the banksters.
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MathisderMaler said:
You aren’t getting it yet, Arthur. Keep reading and thinking.
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Dent Arthur Dent said:
Oh, I know it’s a wealth transfer. It’s the pretenses we were sold that I question. They seem so absurd today. But then, they always are. People are perpetually stupid and gullible. Maybe we deserve to be so easily robbed.
The ‘30s saw the transfer of more than half the world’s gold to the US treasury under FDR’s policies, and that gold was not monetized. The devalued dollar, from changing the official exchange rate and keeping new gold out of circulation, helped keep the US economy crippled for the benefit of the mercantilist (PN) monopolies. Americans suffered, but not as much as Ukrainians under Stalin, Chinese under Mao, or Europeans under Hitler.
“During Roosevelt’s first term as president, New Deal programs bought surplus crop production, dumped dairy milk on the ground, plowed crops under and slaughtered baby pigs so they wouldn’t grow to produce pork. All this was done at times when many Americans could not afford to feed their families. Would anyone contend that state-imposed starvation was more humane in the U.S. than in the Soviet Union?” – Wayne Jett, The Fruits of Graft
This gold slurp was after WWI reparations robbed Germans of their wealth. Step 1, steal two nations’ wealth. Step 2, make them mad at each other. Step 3, watch them wage war against each other, Step 4, get more wealth from military spending, and get your jollies watching the death and mayhem, like people who enjoy cock fighting.
Then let people get wealthy again, and repeat the cycle. I have zero expectation that the cycle will ever end. My only hope is to not participate in it myself.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
WATCH THE MOVIE “SILENCE.” DUTCH TRADERS IN JAPAN FINANCE TORTURE OF JESUIT MISSIONARIES AND CONVERTS AFTER JAPAN’S INITIAL EMBRACE OF MESSIAH WHOSE LAW IS LOVE. “BLACK PANTHERS” BY MILES MATHIS SHOWS CO-FOUNDER IS JAPANESE ELITE. NO RELATIVES LISTED. AND AS PAUL SAYS IN ROMANS 9, THOSE JEWS AREN’T JEWS. SEMITES, PERHAPS AMORITES. PRETENDERS.
MAN-IN-THE-MIDDLE BONUS! RUSSIA SIGNED NON-AGGRESSION PACT WITH MILITARIZED GERMANY & JAPAN AND MADE ARMS AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS FOR GERMANY. SEE: JAPAN BAUT SEIN REICH. GOAL WAS TO CONQUER BROKEN WORLD. PER VIRGIN MARY AT FATIMA IN 1917, RUSSIA IS GOD’S INSTRUMENT OF CHASTISEMENT. BLAME CATHOLIC BISHOPS FOR NOT CONSECRATING RUSSIA TO IMMACULATE HEART AS “ONLY” WAY TO PEACE. FATIMA AND THIRD SECRET D.O.A. WITH FAKE SEER. SisterLucyTruth.ORG. WHY THIS HAPSBURG FAKE IF MARY NOT TRUE?
NOTE ONLY RUSSIAN “JEWS” HAVE RULED ISRAEL. JEWS FORGOT.
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Chris Ryska said:
Wow, Could “Felton” be a variant spelling of “Fulton”??
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suntzufighting said:
I saw thos Fulton Productiond suggested to me by the omniscient youtube AI. So obvious what to think of him and the “AI”.
There is another spookbaby lurking on youtube, one Timo (von) Struckman. Third-rate actor, tried out men-are-pigs about ten years ago(some Hollywood keep women safe foundation thingy) . Starring roles in cheap Nazi glorification movies. His latest persona is archaeologist-historian tracing the origin of the nuclear bomb to Nazi Germany. Allusions that German fissible material ended up in Little Boy. Timo himself is proud of his military background. Also has a weird accent, but his German is so-so. The ‘von’ in his name sometimes appear, sometimes not. Maybe we see a spook career build in real time with this piece of work.
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John C. said:
What a treat it is to find another new paper by MM. May that fountain never stop.
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Graham said:
Damn right.
Hoping Miles has settled into his new home happily.
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Wayne said:
I recently watched “Spies in Warsaw” a British TV mini-series about pre WW2 spook antics in Warsaw. The male lead character was a British actor portraying a French Lt Col in Intelligence, with no attempt at a French accent, David Tennant.
At one point, Tennant’s character is trying to turn a German official, who is already working as a Soviet agent. Talking about his motivations on why Hitler must be stopped, the German says “I have a Jewish grandmother”. Fortunately, I wasn’t drinking anything at the moment, I snorted and exclaimed to no one, “so did Adolf Hitler”.
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mantalo said:
one of Hitler’s generals was called Rommel, the leader of the resistance in Haute-Savoie was called Morel.
Born into a Lyon family of silk traders … poor people, I imagine!
nowadays, they are more in the army, a descendant leads the 27th Battalion of Alpine hunters (BCA) in my city …
The Morel-Journel family is a French family of the Lyonnaise bourgeoisie, active in particular in the silk trade since the nineteenth century. The family business, Maison Morel-Journel, founded in 1811, was the last silk merchant still active in France at the start of the 21st century.
In short, Rommel, Morel …
Rommel’s wife was called Mollin, one of the greatest heroes of the french resistance was called Moulin … from a family of weavers … (silk perhaps?)
In short, Mollin, Moulin…
it lacks a little imagination all that …
or so, the names are never chosen by chance, but have a meaning …
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Lio said:
I’m guessing this “moratorium on rent and evictions” business is a way to scare and push landlords into selling their properties by making them unprofitable, so the same investment groups like Black rock that own everything else can snap up all the habitable real estate. I wonder how much of this is real and how much is just talk on the tv. Are courts really not allowing evictions?
less people being able to buy a home and forced to rent, all homes being owned by the bankers
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swordofclio said:
Hello everyone. I I have been following Miles for the last year and a half and the forum for the last several months. I haven’t felt the need to comment as y’all keep the discussion going along well enough for my satisfaction. Okay, so I am commenting for the first time to post on something that is obviously spooky: the August 5th episode of Infowars…i know, wait, hear me out. This is the very first time I have tuned into an episode of infowars, but the tagline for the video caught my eye and I know how Miles sometimes says that he uses infowars to get a sense for current events in lieu of the BS the MSM is spewing to the masses. The headline was: Biden to announce second national lockdown on August 11th. Jones also mentions the FEMA drill scheduled on the 11th as though the coinciding of these two events makes things potentially more serious. IDK, but I’m living in Los Angeles, so this news is alarming, to say the least. I don’t want to be stuck in LA if there is going to be some nationwide shutdown at the same time they start rolling out their vaccine passport. I’m thinking of fleeing my condo in LA to go stay with my folks for a few weeks in semi-rural Oregon and help them do something useful like get their garden built for the fall. Have you guys heard anything about this, what do you think? If you want, you can check out the video I watched, with the first 30 min being good enough to get the gist: https://ugetube.com/watch/exclusive-biden-to-announce-second-nationwide-lockdown-on-august-11th-full-show-8-5-21_cD4vKHZaxqdzGAJ.html
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Josh said:
Sword but the date 8/11. That should clue you in that this is bullshit.
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swordofclio said:
Thanks Josh, you’re probably right.
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swordofclio said:
Hello everybody, reposting this as my last comment went to moderation and this is kind of time-sensitive. I’m new to the forum but have been following Miles work for the last year and a half. I know how everyone feels about Alex Jones here, I think he is a spook as well, and mostly just ignore him, but I know Miles has tuned into infowars now and then to get a sense for current events and un-spin them from there. I was watching some covid related video yesterday and an infowars video caught my eye from the headline: “Biden to announce second nation-wide lockdown on 8/11” (aces and eights). Jones also mentions how this lockdown coincides with the FEMA drill which is set for the 11th as well as though that is cause for concern. What do you guys think? I’m thinking of fleeing my LA apartment to go stay with my folks for a couple of weeks in semi-rural Oregon to help them do something useful like get their fall garden prepped. I don’t know though, what are the chances that this is a bluff or more fear porn? I just don’t want to be stuck in LA if they shut most everything down and push for vaccine papers at the same time.
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Maria said:
The Daily Mail ran a story yesterday about a woman who falsely claimed to be a survivor of the world trade center towers on 9/11. Apparently, it has been revealed she was not in New York on 9/11and had made the entire thing up. She was head of a 9/11 surivor group (and the lead donor of said group…), and she came from a wealthy Spanish family (see Esteve, don’t know about the surname Head) There is apparently even a movie about this “The woman who wasn’t there“. Anyone else heard about this before?
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FiddleSticks said:
Yep……..there aren’t any survivors from the World Trade Center demolition because there wasn’t anyone there to begin with. Buildings were mostly empty, lower Manhattan was evacuated and no one saw the buildings come down amid the massive smoke show. People only saw what they saw on TV. There are no photos or videos of 9/11 that aren’t FAKE and I doubt anyone actually knows anyone who allegedly perished that day.
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Wayne said:
The 9/11 Families are continuing their distraction role, in the news again, repeating their request that the US government open 9/11 files, that will supposedly reveal the Saudi involvement in the tower demolitions. Just another controlled group playing on peoples’ emotions.
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Wayne said:
Surname Head is another family name.
From Miles Mathis’ “Game of Fakes”: (~/game.pdf)
“Prince’s maternal grandmother was Lucille Bonnell, and her mother was Kate Head.”
From Miles Mathis’ “Buddy Holly The Day the Music Died”: (~/holly.pdf)
“Mary Perry in Buddy’s line married Benjamin Head, and his mother was Frances Spence. That is an obvious fudge of Spencer.”
Then there’s Hollywood’s most awarded person ever at the Oscars, costume designer Edith Head.
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Philip Cox said:
Italians burning their vax passports. Heard there are many protests in towns across France too:
https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1423958763007053824
Those in NYC and LA should organize the same.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
Hey, that’s a great idea. Make a bunch of fake vax passes and burn them in protest. Then there’s not much danger of being charged with fraud. Unless they’re able to check the database to see if you really had a vax and a vax pass.
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Jared Magneson said:
What database? Almost all the “vaxx cards” are just paper certs with handwritten dates on them. There aren’t any actual databases, because it was all fake anyway.
People send me theirs all the time, so we can compare lot numbers and whatnot, and fabricate them if necessary. I haven’t done so, but anyone could do it. They’re fake to begin with.
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mantalo said:
in france there is a database…
we call it SS : securité sociale.
This database traces the health data of the French since 1945, when a charitable soul decided that it would be good for the taxes paid by the community to reimburse the health costs of the population … the whole world envies us this system. ..
Yeah,
if it’s free, you’re the product
If we give you money, you’re the guinea pig !
since 2017, this database has been given to bigdata …
or more exactly to the company lincoln which has black rock and van guard group as shareholders.
So yes, there are places where a database tracks 99% of the population …
why do you believe that “France, land of welcome”? for the beautiful eyes of immigrants?
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Lloyd Kinder said:
BEST PAPERS ON FRAUDS.
Although I don’t idolize Miles as some of you folks seem to do somewhat childishly, I acknowledge his originality and analytical ability and his papers’ probable value to civilization or progress. I’m thinking it would be good to have a short list of the titles or links of his best papers, by which I mean the papers that are most likely to wake people up, to help them see that there is so much fraud in society, in history, apparently committed by a relatively united global ruling class.
The ones that seemed most eye-opening to me offhand are the ones on Cuba & the Bay of Pigs, the Killing of Oswald, the Hindenburg Disaster, and the JFK & RFK Assassinations. Maybe a list of the best photographic evidence would be worthwhile too. The photos of RFK with a missing hand, JFK walking next to his brother Joe & his girlfriend, Oswald being shot, Sharon Tate’s body, and the Hindenburg come to mind.
I hope Miles & company continue to come up with similarly eye-opening material at least until the ruling class becomes extinct or mutates into a non-ruling class. Is there a list of suggestions for papers? I would suggest more on the 9.11 attacks. Maybe more analysis on viruses and vaccines. I still think viruses are real, but that vaccines harm the immune system, instead of promoting health.
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Jared Magneson said:
Yet you claim people “childishly” idolize Miles. And here you are, idolizing him yourself while trying to insult anyone who believes in his work.
You’re so bad at this and it’s fucking hilarious.
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Lloyd Kinder said:
@Jared. I’m bad at what? Persuading people to check out Miles’ site? How would those lists not help?
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Josh said:
Lloyd there is a link on Miles’ website to best of hoaxed events papers.
I seem to recall that you were given a choice to leave the forum or need banned. Did you forget about that or think I would? I didn’t say anything when you started commenting again a little while ago. But now you’re insulting us so I will be banning you this time. Goodbye.
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Gerard Nordskoven said:
PAPERS BACKSUCKED OFF COMPUTER MOST OFTEN EVEN THOUGH PDF FILES:
LINCOLN
FRANKLIN
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MathisderMaler said:
I found today that fauxlex is still running projects against me. Why would this guy choose the moniker “false word”. Didn’t he think that might be a little obvious? He came out of the Tokarski swamp, which sent me back there. Here is what I found there, on the About our Writers page:
Mark Tokarski is the real name of a real person. He spent his first 59 years in Montana, and now lives in the foothills of Denver. He worked for many years as a CPA, but his real love was history and current events, politics and reading about everything possible. In the last two years, 2016 forward, spurred by a post by Miles Mathis on the Sharon Tate “massacre,” Mark found the world opened wide before his eyes. One thing led to another to another, and you av he what you see before you, Peace of Mindful, conspiratorial claptrap to the initiated, and pure research to those who see more and deeper.
What? He doesn’t realize the name of his own site is Piece of Mindful, not Peace of Mindful, and hasn’t caught that mistake in years? And this clause also makes no sense: “conspiratorial claptrap to the initiated”. Or, it does make sense, but its meaning is “if you are an insider, you realize this is garbage”. Why would he tell us that to our faces? No doubt he will say he meant “uninitiated”, but again, he hasn’t caught that glaring error in all the years that paragraph has been up?
By the way, PretzelMug, I caught you commenting over there, so your gig is up. Same for Wanda, undercutting my JFKgay research. Byebye.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Hope you had a good hose down after having to visit a ‘Piece of Sh**ful.
Faux Lex could also be – phony rule or law. Spooks often take names with double meanings.
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vernon said:
We had this conversation about 2 months ago about email privacy and I think it was Vex that said doesn’t bother me – they might learn something. Hiding in plain sight style. Then there was the Gutman article about establishing a rapport through recognisable AV (audio visual) assets being more effective than encryption. So what may appear at first to be gibberish is actually building up public keys to counter man in the middle attacks. I only say this because what you say about double meanings is true. Self induced cognitive dissonance. Say what you mean and mean what you say in an ideal world. These godless creatures use what is best about people – empathy and good intentions. So what choices do you have? Shut up, spin the idea hoping they run with it the wrong way exposing them or straight out give them ideas of how to fuck you up. I even went as far in the past to fuck myself up so they wouldn’t harrass people i cared about. yep.
So not meaning to be contrarian but it is just another one of those if else conditionals.
Family first. Think global act local spin.
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I can see CNN in real time reading this message board and generating articles.
eg. businesses taking payouts to limit clientelle. even good hardworking local family businesses are doing it. writing is on the wall.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/companies-which-received-jobkeeper-to-remain-secret/100360512
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Wayne said:
Urban dictionary may have a more appropriate definition for fauxlex with a hyphen:
“https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Faux-lex”
“A knock off or fake of a really expensive, often fashion related, item sold for “one hell of a deal”. Derived from the watch, Rolex, being a famous ‘knocked off’ item. Usually purchased from a street vendor, out of the back of a van or in another questionable transaction. And usually of poor quality.”
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Maria said:
OMG, after we finish the greek alphabet, we’ll go for the stars, according to the WHO. I think their suggestion of naming the variants after Greek Gods was more fitting as this is indeed a religion; the WHO is like the new papacy and Bill Gates is God.
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rolleikin said:
Maybe they’ll start naming them after famous movie villains like The Darth Vader Variant, The Hannibal Lecter Strain, or The Wicked Witch of the West Nile Virus, etc
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Lewis reid said:
@Darth Vader Variant
‘May the farce be with you.’
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They Live said:
Around half of the constellations are named after Greek gods, so they are laughing in our faces again.
“Dr Van Kerkhove said star constellations are the current frontrunner to follow the Greek alphabet, suggesting we could one day see variants known as Aries, Gemini or Orion.
Several alternatives have already been dismissed, including Greek gods and goddesses – partly due to concerns about pronunciation.”
“We’re actually considering star constellations,” she added. “We were going to go with Greek gods or goddesses, and I said please, please don’t make me say that publicly.”
All three are Greek gods not that she or her readers would know that .I’m wondering when it is that everyone stopped learning this.
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Wayne said:
Long ago,I suspect. In light polluted USA, they are more likely to think that those are names of characters in a comic book/cinematic universe.
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suntzufighting said:
Van Kerkhove.
In my derivative language “kerkhof” means graveyard.
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Boris Tabaksplatt said:
Van = from in Dutch and an abbreviation of vanguard in English Old Northern British Kirk = Chirch, also used as a verb to kirk – take someone to be buried
Hove = Middle English – loom protectively over. So could be a protective leader of the church, or Church Warden?
Her full married name is Maria Rosanne DeJoseph Van Kerkhove,
Maria = of the sea – a variant of Mary the mother of Jesus – Links to the Sea people/Phonies/Spooks
Rose = a rose, symbol of the Brotherhood of the Meritorious Order of the Rosy Cross, which I wouldn’t be surprised if it was part of the spooky Theosophy Project.
Anne = full of grace – grace is a title of honour.
De = by/of/from – Joseph – stepfather of Jesus, a Hebrew name. Link to ‘coat of many colours’ – or multiple personas perhaps?
So she could be a Jewish spook claiming a lineage back to the parents of Christ.
Her current role is the COVID-19 technical and health operations lead, at the WHO. Prior to that she worked directly with the WHO’s Global Alert and Response and Global Influenza Programme to support the pandemic response.
Her main activity during the pandemic was to coordinate the WHO informal mathematical modelling network for H1N1pdm under the leadership of Professor Neil Ferguson – UK pandemic scaremonger in chief.
I think she’s well up the spook pecking order.
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